Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    because poster duc749 said on here (page 4) he/she is in favour of them ! 🙄

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    duc749 said ⬇️

    Personal Independence Payment should be paid in vouchers. Never understood why claimants receive money. Vouchers will allow claimants to purchase only items that will help their disability and not spent on irrelevant items. I have been on PIP for several years and believe that the maximum length between assessments should not exceed three years unless a terminal illness is diagnosed.

    By switching to vouchers there would a reduction in claimants overnight. "

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering

    Zipz don't you dare duck out now 🤗 you have so many friends here, we can get through this together buddy, one breath at a time 😊

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 4,794 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @Zipz I'm really sorry how all of this is affecting you. It's been a really turbulent week to say the least. Please know you've got a community here that cares. I'm going to pop you an email imminently - please keep an eye out for it. 💛

  • Meredithshep
    Meredithshep Online Community Member Posts: 97 Empowering

    I totally understand why you would rather keep your PIP, my dad manages financially but only just. He has bladder and bowel incontinence and cannot change himself, his shoulders are bone on bone but nothing can be done because he's too frail for surgery. His parkinsons shuffle is a snails pace and he freezes, can't walk much anyway because all his life he's had a deformed foot that is now so bad he has special shoes made by the NHS, his tremors are almost constant now. He has the falls team out several times per week to get him up, sometimes twice in a day. Can't cook or dress himself and needs 24 hour supervision due to his health and his advanced dementia ……. that's not fair either that he gets less when his conditions are so advanced just because he managed to get through his working life without claiming any type of benefit. It's a sorry state of affairs when it's a two tier system either way, he's no less deserving of PIP than anyone else the only reason he hasn't got it is his age so he has AA which is less than PIP but as a pensioner. They have to do something to make things fair on everyone including those yet to claim for disabilities in the future, something has to give as it's not sustainable.

  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 1,004 Pioneering

    I got my housing costs wrong! I just put my total rent. I got a notification to sign in to my UC account because my landlord had said my rent is so much plus an eligible service charge (added up to the same amount I’d put). I just had to confirm that my landlord was correct. UC were fine with it. I imagine it’s a common mistake and they could see the total rent was the same anyway

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,562 Championing

    Thats amazing sounds like a plan yes please I be asking you all for help glad your applying for pip

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,562 Championing

    Thankyou I get so stressed on phone I will be a hot mess but what's new!! Can you so pip application online some areas can God all this since October 2023 been constant flight or fight mode do you know about the admenments list can't find any information of how many still on list have a relaxing day going to be hot hot

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,562 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,562 Championing

    So it is a money bill no scrutiny 6 hours to vote on I'm so angry that meg hillier actually did what she did do you think she had a private vendetta doesn't make sense she was being interviewed like starmer had parted the red sea and the angels was singing in the back ground all besties again who loses US mentally emotionally physically feel like thier private punchbag rotten treatment I couldn't do that to anyone I suppose we are caring thier void of all emotions

  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 301 Empowering

    I am trapped in a job I don't like that much because of consession my employer makes and although I am truly grateful I would like to get another job but the reason I stay is because getting a job at interview when you explain your disabilities means no one will touch you and I can see why so getting people into work is a joke sorry it won't happen, if it was simply a case of mobility a wheelchair and a ramp great but of someone is in alot of pain then just provide a wheelchair isn't enough mobility has to be considered and should be part of daily living also, I agree any vote of this getting through is wrong, pile the pressure on folks it's the only way we can win

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 4,794 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    edited June 2025

    Hi @happyman I'd like to think that "new" means exactly that, but hesitant to say with 100% certainty until we've seen these concessions put on to paper.

    I appreciate that's not the answer anyone wants right now but everything is moving so quickly at the minute with lots of conversations and decisions happening overnight almost, as we've seen this week, and the majority being shared via the media before the Government.

    I'm really hopeful that we'll have some more clarity over the next week, especially early on with the vote taking place Tuesday. We'll try our absolute best to keep you informed as we're being updated but as @Albus_Scope mentioned, with the fast pace of changes we're all hearing at the same time, including us here at Scope.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 303 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    Hi Meredith, I am so sorry about your dad, I really am, no one deserves to be in that position re finances etc. Was your Dad too old to apply for PIP ? That is a bug bear of mine that there is a cut off in claiming it. I may have come across as a bit sharp I am sorry if I did, its just I don't want another argument about divisions in who deserves what to surface again, we should be standing together to make things better for all disabled no matter how old or their financial situation. I bowed out of a comment last week about means testing PIP, these comments divide folk, where we should be rallying especially now. I am not saying your comment was the same, I just want to get through a day as a pensioner without having to justify being old ( 67 - is that even old ? ) and on PIP 😊

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 4,794 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Forgot to add @happyman, I've popped a link to the previous Green Paper Discussion in the body of this discussion to refer back to.

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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 17,438 Championing

    Hi @Holly_Scope - please would you also add a link to the 'Green Paper & Benefits Reform Updates' thread before it slides into obscurity. I have bookmarked it, but I think providing a link here will also help other members.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 4,794 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Of course @chiarieds, good shout. It should be on there now. ☺️

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  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    Hi everyone,

    Just to say I received my pip review form this morning. It’s the AR1 form and not the 89 pages people one people are talking about. If anyone has any idea why some are given long forms I’d love to know

  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Online Community Member Posts: 17,438 Championing

    The AR1 form is shorter than the PIP2 form (the initial claim form) @secretsquirrel1 - but it should be filled in with as much detail as your PIP2. There's not much space, so do add extra pages (with your name & NI number at the top of each) just saying which question you're continuing from.

  • Jamk85
    Jamk85 Online Community Member Posts: 56 Empowering
    edited June 2025

    Looks like after the 3rd reading it will go to the house of lords, that's if it passes tuesdays 2nd reading vote.

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    After the final vote, the bill goes to the Lords, to be carefully scrutinised again.

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