Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 979 Championing

    As a whole it was clear against, on a per voting group basis I recall the most right wing group was even slightly against it
    But of course in the news ministers will tell us because they believe there is broad support for welfare cuts, it must mean that this policy is also supported.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,789 Championing

    Here it is till 2028 then be to late to change so yes have 3 years then hit with it all over again with no change email mps I know Jeremy voting against everyone else if your mp voting for this email to contest

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  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,456 Championing

    So "the most right wing group" were only slightly against? Who were "much more against"?

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 103 Empowering

    Yes we could win to retain our disability benefits PIP, but what about ESA being lost. I have lost my ESA of over 400 quid / 4 weeks?

    We need to keep writing to our MPs and the press, TV Radio social media etc., even at this late stage; its never too late… to win.. but only if keep take nowt for grated, but WORK for a victory, and dissolve apathy, doubt, fear, traumas, and write to our MPs.

    WE CAN WIN, YES WE CAN, BUT KEEP WRITING TO YOUR MPS, IT IS ESSENTIAL.

    Someone on this forum has raised this: we are focussing on PIP, which is necessary indeed, but it seems the loss of ESA by disabled people being migrated to UC has not been covered.

    When one migrates to UC, you have to sign the UC form saying you understand you will lose benefits.

    I did sign it but, it is NOT a free choice, and made me very anxious and depressed, because the lack of NHS dentists means I have had to spend a few £100 on dentistry.

    So I'm going to ask solicitors, pro bono and civil legal aid, there was no duty of care here, the loss of so much money, given the rise in living costs of 40% since Putin's invasion of Ukraine, is DEPRESSING. IT EVEN TRIGGERED TRAUMATIC SUICIDAL FEELINGS and I shall ask solicitors even a barrister I know my signing the UC form saying I understood about loss of benefits was under duress, was pressuring traumatic no duty of care, no right to life there, could be unlawful and maybe a case to answer in law, and ethics. I shall get back to you all, as of course I care about you all,each and everyone of you, who are suffring great distresses too.

    I will look after myself and others.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 979 Championing
  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 1,456 Championing

    I don't understand, I am only quoting what you originally posted.

  • MadMilan2019
    MadMilan2019 Online Community Member Posts: 103 Empowering

    Dear Luvpoink,

    You expressed confusion and distyress at the horrible prospect of these PIP changes, and say that you havent eaten.

    I am so sorry to hear that.

    I do feel for you, andmany others on this forum too.

    Try to eat, treat yourself. Even if you can eat a little bit that is good. If you do not eat you will go further into confusion, despair and even higher anxiety - I know I've been there.

    So, please also, record your present physical and mental state, what illnesses have been made worse, and the chronic symptoms you describe above - as evidence to protest (both reconsideration, and appeal =s 2 bites at the cherry).

    Keep a record, because it is real, and if you can share this with your MP, to write to Starmer and his Disability ministers.

    You are stronger than you know. The news generally is depressing, but not all of it. We Buddhist reduce negative input from the media, and do more mediation, relaxation yoga, and campaigning, for there are socially and politically engaged Buddhists, like me. Compassion requires political, economic and social justice, and there is Maslow's hiearachy of needs .

    Please take good care of yourself, perhaps consider, all of us,

    'Develop a more compassionate narrative for your sufferings'

    e.g you did not ask for this proposed cuts in benefits, you are not bad or evil, but human, you are a valuable intelligent kind human being, and can recover. You can use your friends, etc.

    It is not our fault, these proposed cuts, we deserve benefits, and we need to keep writing to the media, and our MPs.

    Please Google ''find your MP'' and ''TV'' ''radio'' and ''newspapers'' ''newsdesks''

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 67 Empowering

    Apparently 150 rebel Mps are voting against the bill. Bit of gd news.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 979 Championing
    edited June 30

    Sorry my brain had a moment, the much more against would have been left wing voters yes. I cant find it in my browsing history, but I remember where I found it so later will look where I got it from and post the link here.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,975 Championing
  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 979 Championing

    Great news if true, whilst the 3 years concession is much better than the original 2 months offered, the reality is its still not very long and if your next review date is after 2028 anyway, it makes no difference.

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 141 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,975 Championing

    But they’re not saying we are covered until 2028 so how come no mp especially the rebels have mentioned this fact ?

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,324 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,789 Championing

    Lets hope alot still think this

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  • happyman
    happyman Online Community Member Posts: 86 Contributor

    I really don't know why they have Ministers and the prime minister on tv for an interview because they never answer the question they have been given. I think the presenters who are interviewing them are to polite. I would just say answer the xxxxx question. But they don't.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Online Community Member Posts: 288 Championing

    I want all incapacitated and disabled people present and future who claim disability oriented benefits to be protected.

    No concessions, pull the bill and start from scratch working closely with disability activists like Ellen Clifford, work with the tax payers alliance so they can acknowledge that anyone could become incapacitated and that safety net is for everyone who needs it.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 979 Championing

    I apologise its my assumption, but the press seem to be making the same assumption as that the concession is for the 2026 4 point change, not the bigger change that timms is still working on.

  • waylander9602
    waylander9602 Online Community Member Posts: 67 Empowering

    Here is the link.https://youtu.be/ZBalfYN_yRg?si=Ab7MUfFIWbCjP1mO