Direct payments and Universal Credit

blacklight
blacklight Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected
edited August 30 in Universal Credit (UC)

Question: about

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Universal Credits

Do we declare our Daughters Direct Payments (Self Directed Support) when making a Money savings and investments declaration?

Under:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/universal-credit-money-savings-and-investments#welfare-support-payments

It states things you must tell us about and things you dont need to tell us about when making a Money savings and investments declaration.

Our question is, so we need to tell Universal Credits and declare "Direct Payments - Self Directed Support" when making a "money savings and Investments" declaration as it is not listed under either category of needing to or not needing to declare?

Under section 3 direct payment options Section 3: it states:

"A direct payment is not a benefit or a gift"

The Self-directed Support Options

The SDS options in detail Option 1: Direct Payment

https://www.gov.scot/publications/statutory-guidance-accompany-social-care-self-directed-support-scotland-act-2013-2/

Under:

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advice/practical-support/arranging-care-and-support-for-someone/direct-payments/

"They do not count as income and therefore would not affect any other benefits you might be receiving."

They are not Welfare Support Payments and mot Subject to 12 months disregard either. They are totally different and seperate to Welfare Support Payments. They are also NOT local council welfare payments under the Children Act, Social Work Act or Social Services and Well-being Act.

And

"Money from direct payments does not count as income and will not affect any benefits."

https://www.scope.org.uk/advice-and-support/managing-direct-payments#:~:text=Money%20from%20direct%20payments%20does,support%20you%20are%20eligible%20for.&text=There%20is%20no%20maximum%20amount,receive%20from%20a%20direct%20payment.

The reason why I ask is because we did report it under money savings and investments and it took our capital above the limit and stopped our Universal Credits!!!! Then had to wait weeks for them to remove it. Trouble is this what about the next time we make a money savings and investments declaration? What do we do?

Kind Regards

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  • forgoodnesssake
    forgoodnesssake Online Community Member Posts: 526 Empowering

    If i understand correctly DPs are to pay for assessed care needs and so are not for saving or investing. My son has a large NHS CHC DP care package and there has never been any question of declaring it for UC purposes as it is not "income"

  • blacklight
    blacklight Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected

    Yes exactly what the DP are for.

    That's great so you have never declared your sons Direct Payments to Universal Credit?

    I would imagine if you did and they would mistakenly deem as capital or income and your Universal Credits would stop. As they did in our case.