PIP daily living

alasalaamaa
alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

Recently a DWP decision maker contacted me and asked me about my daily living and how my PTSD and dental issues are affecting me, after I have appealed to the FTT. She said she might be able to change the decision and will discuss things with my representative from Centre 70. The DWP then sent a written report and they said the pain I am feeling when brushing my teeth is out of the context in the Washing and bathing activity. Not brushing your teeth in washing and bathing will give you poor oral health. So why the DWP does not take into consideration about this in this activity. Also, I wear prosthetic dentures which is an aid. So without it I can't eat or talk properly.

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  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    The decision maker who contacted me spoke about my 1st application on 02/02/2021 and maybe if she changes the decision, my award for the standard rate for PIP will be backdated.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 11,423 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you @alasalaamaa hopefully they can get the award changed in your favour.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,028 Connected

    I've never heard of anyone claiming pip because of dental pain tbh, I never thought anyone would actually claim pip for it. But I guess I was wrong and this forum amazes me at times. anyway I also agree that your use of the descriptors is out of context.

    I think I might try get a higher award myself for wearing glasses, surely this is an aid as without it I can't see anything.

  • onmylonesome
    onmylonesome Online Community Member Posts: 184 Empowering

    If you have prosthetic dentures (false teeth) take them out to clean them then no pain.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    Brushing your teeth is part of the washing and bathing activity. Not brushing your teeth regularly will cause bad breath and gum diseases and this is poor hygiene. When I wash I have to brush my mouth by taking out my dentures and clean them. I have lost most of my front and back teeths so when brushing my mouth I feel pain in my gum, the soft tissues. False teeths are prosthetic and are aid in eating and talking. PIP failed to take into account about these

  • onmylonesome
    onmylonesome Online Community Member Posts: 184 Empowering

    I don't have a single tooth in my mouth and I don't wear false teeth either,i have no problem talking or eating apart from hard foods like apples etc obviously so to me they are not an aid.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    No, whence you have lost teeths in your mouth, you will find it difficult to eat, brushing your mouth or even talking. So you will have to get false teeths to be able to do this. You have to be aware of good oral hygiene.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected
  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 11,423 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    edited September 17

    @alasalaamaa PIP is given on the extent to which your condition or disability affects your ability to perform daily living and mobility activities, so I don't think gum pain would see any kind of award I'm afraid, even if dentures are involved.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    No, not taking care of your appearance makes you a dirty person. So dental issues for inability to brush your teeth properly should be taken into account in the washing and bathing activity Also having a false teeth is an aid in eating and talking. PIP knows that false teeth is a prosthetic which is an aid.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    I don't give up, the PIP system is not correctly managed. Assessments should be done by Medical practitioners and Psychologist soecialising in the conditions affecting your daily living and mobility, not nurses.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 11,423 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Could you explain to them how it affects your daily life @alasalaamaa? And which descriptors you think you should get points for?

    You may get some points, but I'm not sure if that alone would be enough points to claim the daily living component of PIP.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    I will get 2 points each on the daily living activities like taking nutrition, washing and bathing, communicating verbally, reading signs, symbols and words, and also engaging to unfamiliar people face-to-face, this is because I have dental issues which makes me to use false teeth which is a prosthetic aid.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 11,423 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Unfortunately, I don't think the DWP will award any points for gum pain when brushing your teeth @alasalaamaa as you're not using any appliances whilst doing so. I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but looking through the descriptors, criteria, and various other forums, that's the answer that keeps coming up. But I do wish you all the best with your claim though. ๐Ÿ˜Š

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 3,967 Championing

    Please keep us updated on the progress of your claim. Look after yourself.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    Can you wash and bathe without brushing your teeth. Now that I have lost teeths and my gum is bare and has become tender so I have to brush it slowly now and not hard like before.

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected

    Okay, thanks

  • alasalaamaa
    alasalaamaa Online Community Member Posts: 32 Connected
  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 3,967 Championing

    It is certainly important to maintain good oral hygiene for our general wellbeing.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 3,967 Championing

    If the OP is using an electric toothbrush might they not need very soft heads? The absolutely right brush/ heads might cost a little cost a little above the norm for an everyday appliance.