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  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing

    BBC needs to abolish the license fee anyway, I wouldn't watch a BBC programme if someone paid me, its like literal torture. While I do sympathise with license fee payers I do hope the BBC is punished in some way and hopefully puts people off paying and watching BBC.

    General TV and any sort of license is a thing of the past.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Posts: 934 Championing
    edited December 2025

    But what about the people that can't afford all those luxuries. That seems to be a lot of money being paid out to avoid the BBC, don't wish things gone because you can afford all those and most people can't do that. I don't claim anything and I certainly can't afford what you've got. And I certainly hope the BBC aren't punished in any way just because you want them to Rubin. TV isn't on it's way out as you put it, there's more programs than being done in that sector than ever before.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,873 Championing

    I wouldn't agree that general TV is a thing of the past. I don't use any streaming services myself. I like the fact I can just press one button on one remote and the same TV program comes on at the same time each day.

    I also like the fact I can skip ads for free on commercial channels by switching to another station - which isn't possible when streaming, at least not on the free services I've tried like C4 Catchup.

    I also listen to radio for the same reason. Don't want all the hassle of choosing tracks each time. Just want to press one button and be done with it.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,427 Championing

    There is talk of making the vast majority of BBC - free, but with paywalls for certain (expensive to produce) programs, such as Traitors and Strictly….

    As far as I am concerned, that would be fine - since I don't watch Traitors or Strictly.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,873 Championing

    I don't see how that could possibly work on a terrestrial TV? Would they make those programs streaming only instead?

    I don't watch Strictly but I did watch Traitors.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 3,427 Championing
    edited December 2025

    Entry Without Consent

    TV licence officers do not have the automatic right to enter your home. You are not legally required to let them in if they knock on your door. You can:

    • Refuse to answer their questions.
    • Deny them entry.

    If they do not have a warrant, they must leave if you ask them to.

    Entry With a Warrant

    The only situation where a TV licence officer can enter your home without your permission is if they have obtained a search warrant from a magistrate. This means they cannot conduct random inspections or enter your property without legal authorisation.

    Enforcement and Legal Authority

    TV licence officers are authorised by the BBC to enforce television licensing laws. They can investigate whether an address is using TV receiving equipment without a valid licence. However, their powers are limited, and they must follow specific legal guidelines.

    Identification and Conduct

    All officers must carry official identification and adhere to a Code of Conduct. This includes being polite and explaining the purpose of their visit.

    In summary, while TV licence officers can investigate, they cannot enter your property without your consent unless they have a warrant.

    When You Need a TV Licence

    You need a TV licence if you:

    • Watch live TV on any channel, including Sky channels.
    • Use services like Sky Go to watch live broadcasts.
    • Access BBC iPlayer, regardless of whether you watch live or on-demand content.

    When You Don’t Need a TV Licence

    You do not need a TV licence if you:

    • Only watch on-demand content from non-BBC services, such as Netflix or Amazon Prime.
    • Use NOW TV to watch Sky programmes, as it does not include live broadcasts that require a licence.
  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing

    I don't get what you mean by can't afford, when the TV license costs far more per year than the standard £5.99-7.99 per month (depending on package and what service you use) to even use a streaming service. Then you could be even smarter and not pay anything as you know where to find free services online. Alot of stuff is even free on youtube to watch.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing

    I can't watch anything online or do techy stuff. I'm happy with Freeview and I don't understand all this fuss..

    Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a licence for TV they don't watch. Mine is rarely on and I'm not complaining!

    I am genuinely happy for those who can afford to pay for multiple services, really I am.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Posts: 934 Championing
    edited December 2025

    You do know that not all the money collected for licence goes to the BBC, it's shared out between all five channels, it's a licence to broadcast programs into your homes a licence to watch live tv. So let's not go down the road off bashing the BBC.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing

    Actually the BBC is the only one who gets money from the license fee, whereby you need a license to watch any live tv channel. If you do a search on who gets paid from the license fee its only the BBC that does, the other channels income is from advertising or other sources.

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  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing
    edited December 2025

    BBC should be a subscription service or have advertising, forcing everyone to pay for something that stops them from seeing otherwise free services (already paid for by advertising) i.e Channel 4, ITV etc, is a form of control on the british public. Its the main reason I hate on the BBC and always will till they stop this control (fee) on the public.

    I can't truly understand anyone who could defend the BBC after what they do to the public i.e license fee, jimmy saville incidents, princess diana incidents and other incidents in that nature, and on going till this very day with the trump thing.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Posts: 934 Championing

    You see you nearly got me there, but I see you're an anti BBC person, you can't understand because you are too young? So the other channels haven't made any mistakes then? not even The morning show on ITV? Actually you wouldn't be able to watch any live tv without licence, so no ITV etc, so if anything live came on netflix or amazon or apple, you would be paying a fee. Maybe you've got a fortune hidden under the bed to pay for all your subscriptions. Don't think the government will get rid of the licence because of anti BBC people like you, they'll think of another licence you should have to fill the gap, they can't afford not too.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing

    As I said before its cheaper than having a license to have a streaming service, so don't know where you're getting this "fortune" or "luxery" from, when its not that expensive for some of them. Its even free in most cases to not watch live tv or watch it on youtube, I can quite happily watch any movie in the world, any series and any performance or anything for free online whenever I want. What baffles me people pay a hike up price on something they are forced to watch at an exact time everyday, whether its bbc, ITV or channel 4, it just doesn't make sense and if people can't see logic in that then I don't have anything else to say, but I would never watch "normal tv" ever again.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing

    Also I don't know why your getting so defensive after you were cleary shown you were wrong…

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing
    edited December 2025

    I do not want to watch adverts - trailers are bad enough. I wouldn't miss the other channels if I could only watch one broadcaster for my £3.50 a week.

    We no longer pay to listen to BBC radio and once again, commercial radio stations are available. People happily watch programmes through catch-up TV, the BBC has the lion's share of viewing hours and we can't all be wrong!

    Darn Old Tump again? He's never off. He does not have an off button nor a volume button.

    Damages? He'll have a job arguing that one: he is damaged and he did say those words.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing
  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing
    edited December 2025

    When I mean forced I mean you are scheduled to watch a certain programme at a certain time, like if you want to watch something on TV you have to literally sit down at that exact scheduled time and watch it, unless you do catch up. My point was that you can literally watch anything you put your mind too completley free without the need for this "license".

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing

    I knew what you meant.

    Rubin, I literally look forward to these times and days when I can watch my programmes! I enjoy this simple routine then my tv stays off all weekend. Perhaps if I had an enormous screen to watch cinema-style I'd feel differently but I don't.

    Whatever its faults, the BBC has shaped not just our nation but the world and it remains the most impartial news service.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,463 Championing

    You're still missing the point, Okay if you only watch BBC then it should be a subscription, as it'll be far less cheaper than paying for a whole tv license and it allows those that don't watch the BBC to enjoy other channels.

    Those that say I don't want a subscription then what exactly do you think the TV license is?

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,535 Championing

    Those commercial broadcasters would need to recover their losses of revenue with the licence (as it is now) gone. They all benefit from it.