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  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    I don't get what you mean by can't afford, when the TV license costs far more per year than the standard £5.99-7.99 per month (depending on package and what service you use) to even use a streaming service. Then you could be even smarter and not pay anything as you know where to find free services online. Alot of stuff is even free on youtube to watch.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,052 Championing

    I can't watch anything online or do techy stuff. I'm happy with Freeview and I don't understand all this fuss..

    Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a licence for TV they don't watch. Mine is rarely on and I'm not complaining!

    I am genuinely happy for those who can afford to pay for multiple services, really I am.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,465 Championing

    Next they'll be telling us they no longer buy Green Shield stamps. Luncheon Vouchers, you still get them, right? ⏳️

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering
    edited December 2025

    You do know that not all the money collected for licence goes to the BBC, it's shared out between all five channels, it's a licence to broadcast programs into your homes a licence to watch live tv. So let's not go down the road off bashing the BBC.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    Actually the BBC is the only one who gets money from the license fee, whereby you need a license to watch any live tv channel. If you do a search on who gets paid from the license fee its only the BBC that does, the other channels income is from advertising or other sources.

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  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing
    edited December 2025

    BBC should be a subscription service or have advertising, forcing everyone to pay for something that stops them from seeing otherwise free services (already paid for by advertising) i.e Channel 4, ITV etc, is a form of control on the british public. Its the main reason I hate on the BBC and always will till they stop this control (fee) on the public.

    I can't truly understand anyone who could defend the BBC after what they do to the public i.e license fee, jimmy saville incidents, princess diana incidents and other incidents in that nature, and on going till this very day with the trump thing.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering

    You see you nearly got me there, but I see you're an anti BBC person, you can't understand because you are too young? So the other channels haven't made any mistakes then? not even The morning show on ITV? Actually you wouldn't be able to watch any live tv without licence, so no ITV etc, so if anything live came on netflix or amazon or apple, you would be paying a fee. Maybe you've got a fortune hidden under the bed to pay for all your subscriptions. Don't think the government will get rid of the licence because of anti BBC people like you, they'll think of another licence you should have to fill the gap, they can't afford not too.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    As I said before its cheaper than having a license to have a streaming service, so don't know where you're getting this "fortune" or "luxery" from, when its not that expensive for some of them. Its even free in most cases to not watch live tv or watch it on youtube, I can quite happily watch any movie in the world, any series and any performance or anything for free online whenever I want. What baffles me people pay a hike up price on something they are forced to watch at an exact time everyday, whether its bbc, ITV or channel 4, it just doesn't make sense and if people can't see logic in that then I don't have anything else to say, but I would never watch "normal tv" ever again.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    Also I don't know why your getting so defensive after you were cleary shown you were wrong…

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,052 Championing
    edited December 2025

    I do not want to watch adverts - trailers are bad enough. I wouldn't miss the other channels if I could only watch one broadcaster for my £3.50 a week.

    We no longer pay to listen to BBC radio and once again, commercial radio stations are available. People happily watch programmes through catch-up TV, the BBC has the lion's share of viewing hours and we can't all be wrong!

    Darn Old Tump again? He's never off. He does not have an off button nor a volume button.

    Damages? He'll have a job arguing that one: he is damaged and he did say those words.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,052 Championing
  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing
    edited December 2025

    When I mean forced I mean you are scheduled to watch a certain programme at a certain time, like if you want to watch something on TV you have to literally sit down at that exact scheduled time and watch it, unless you do catch up. My point was that you can literally watch anything you put your mind too completley free without the need for this "license".

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,465 Championing

    The limited tv i do watch is on the BBC, and as broadcast. I bet i'm not the only one!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,052 Championing

    I knew what you meant.

    Rubin, I literally look forward to these times and days when I can watch my programmes! I enjoy this simple routine then my tv stays off all weekend. Perhaps if I had an enormous screen to watch cinema-style I'd feel differently but I don't.

    Whatever its faults, the BBC has shaped not just our nation but the world and it remains the most impartial news service.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,381 Championing

    You're still missing the point, Okay if you only watch BBC then it should be a subscription, as it'll be far less cheaper than paying for a whole tv license and it allows those that don't watch the BBC to enjoy other channels.

    Those that say I don't want a subscription then what exactly do you think the TV license is?

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,052 Championing

    Those commercial broadcasters would need to recover their losses of revenue with the licence (as it is now) gone. They all benefit from it.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,894 Championing
    edited December 2025

    The BBC is not just another television channel. It is a state backed institution, operating under the protection of a Royal Charter that secures its legal status and guarantees funding through a compulsory licence fee. This extraordinary privilege, a privilege no other broadcaster enjoys, allows the BBC to bypass the realities of competition and market forces that others must contend with.

    In stark contrast, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 operate in the real world, surviving on advertising revenue and subscription models. ITV, for example, offers ITVX Premium, allowing viewers to pay for an advert free experience, a model that embraces consumer choice. The BBC too could follow suit. It could move to a subscription model, offering the option for those who value an uninterrupted, advert free service to pay for it, while allowing others to opt out of a forced payment.

    Right now, the BBC stands alone in demanding a compulsory levy from every household, whether they use its services or not. If the BBC truly enjoys the widespread support it claims, it should stand on equal terms with every other broadcaster. It should earn its place in the market, offering subscription or advertising, not depending on a government enforced tax that bypasses consumer choice.

    If the BBC believes in its value, let it prove it by competing in the open market. The licence fee should not be a crutch for an institution that refuses to evolve with the times. The BBC must adapt or be left behind. It is time for it to stand on its own two feet.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering
    edited December 2025

    So I think you were wrong Rubin, for live TV.

    • Do I need one? You need a TV licence if you watch or (Record) live TV or use BBC iPlayer, but not if you only watch non-BBC catch-up services like ITVX and Netflix.

    • Watch out. If you watch 'live TV' or BBC iPlayer without a TV licence, you could face a fine of up to £1,000.
    • So all you can watch is catch up and nothing else, it's a broadcasting licence that covers the BBC and Iplayer and radio. It means anything "Live" you can't watch without a licence.
    • So if ITV was the only channel you watched or recorded, you would even then need a licence.
  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 2,828 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi everyone,

    Just a little reminder to keep it civil please 😊

    Here's the info from the TV Licensing website which explains everything. I declared I didn't need a licence for a few years as I only ever watched YouTube and Netflix. I have a licence now as my daughter loves what CBeebies has to offer!

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 5,598 Championing

    Some of us need routine to manage our day. I find a set TV schedule very useful for that personally.

    I also like the fact there are often only 1 or 2 suitable programs to chose from for any hour in the evening. I could never choose from an infinite list on a streaming service every hour of every night.

    Plus I find myself watching programs I wouldn't necessarily have chosen at all if I'd seen them on a streaming list, meaning that I learn more than I would otherwise have done and making my 'world' slightly larger than it otherwise would have been. Something I feel many people could benefit from when I see the closed-minded comments that people leave online.

    I do understand that some people live busy or even chaotic lives and would prefer to choose TV programs at any time of day, and they already have the choice to do that through streaming. But there are also a large number of us who still like scheduled TV as well.