PIP for anxiety?
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Genuinely curious @Chris75_ what you think can be seen or learned from a face to face assessment that they can't do by telephone or video? Surely the scrutiny applies either way??
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And I suppose they could have examined my wasted muscles via the telephone? That is nonsensical.
I have stated my opinion several times on here. Face to face for all, with exeptions granted on a case to case basis. I am well aware there are some people who couldn't attend a face to face.
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As far as I understood, whether you have wasted muscles or not is not up for question or assessed at PIP assessments? They don't do a medical assessments they just ask for more information on what you've stated on the forms and any evidence you've supplied to check against the descriptor criteria. Diagnosis is rarely even in question at all and not the purpose of assessments
I'm sorry if it came across that I was arguing or questioning you, I promise I'm not, and don't mean any offence at all!! I'm trying to understand why you think it - I've not read your other comments on it and am not debating whether they should be in person or not ❤️
To be honest my take is that if a person is going to lie, they'll do so in person or on the phone so it doesn't make much difference either way
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I was asked to squeeze the physician's finger, had my pseudohypertrophic calves examined, it was very much like a medical examination. I wonder if you are seeing things from mainly a mental health perspective?
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I say physician, as he identified himself as 'doctor'. This was back in 2010.
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I struggle with the negative portrayal of people who need PIP to survive. The judgement of deserving or undeserving. But it is soul destroying to see it in a group like this. You don't know what is going on for someone with invisible conditions. Quite often poor mental health is linked to other conditions. I have multiple chronic conditions that are incredibly debilitating and negatively affect my mental health (anxiety and depression) I am currently fighting to get PIP and that too is negatively affecting my mental health. You could see me on a less symptomatic day out in my power chair and judge that if I'm out I don't need help which is untrue. I can't bathe myself or cook a meal some days I need help getting undressed. Some days are plagued with suicidal ideation. I can't walk more than 10 metres but still haven't been awarded PIP mobility. There is a really low percentage of fraud in PIP. Mental health support isn't just abut popping pills it's about therapy too and that has a really long waiting list (I have been on the list for counselling for two years). So the bottom line of my post is don't get on board with the medias agenda, stop attacking people with different disabilities and challenges to ourself and be kind to one anather. Thank-you
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I understand that some people have been upset by this discussion, however, I think this is a great discussion to have and hopefully it will help everyone understand both sides. Unfortunately, this doesn't always happen, so I remind you all to be respectful of each other and stick to the mantra of 'educate, don't retaliate'. It may be better to agree to disagree.
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I don't think expressing an opinion is 'attacking people'. There is too much censorship nowadays, people can be quite intolerant towards those they disagree with.
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I agree @Chris75_, but words need to be chosen carefully as a lot of context is lost when it's just words on a screen.
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I've had 2 f2f assessments with PIP & they can ask to do a musculoskeletal (MSK) exam which you can however decline without it affecting your claim. The first assessor didn't ask to do a MSK exam, & I stopped the one with my 2nd assessment as they were trying to gauge the range of motion (ROM) of my joints. As I'm hypermobile & my ROM therefore exceeds that of a 'normal' person I thought it pointless to carry on to which the assessor agreed.
However, what you're describing @Chris75_ is a DLA exam. I had one of those too before I migrated to PIP & a Dr does come to your home. I can say with certainty that your recall must have been about DLA as PIP (which is being discussed here) didn't start until 2013.
DLA was also a completely different benefit & can't be likened to PIP due to the difference in their respective criteria.
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What do you think of this panel mw are any of them known to support disabled people
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Yes, it must have been for DLA. It was a young nurse that gave me my PIP assessment. She didn't examine my muscles, but did insist I squeeze her fingers.
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I agree and with the help of social media posts down playing anxiety and painting a picture of a life of riley on benefits and the only thing that will help us survive it is working and you know your never make it i feel like a child honestly a lost child i have no survival skills I've hidden for many years I can mask for an hour max then im done along with everything else I will never make it and I know that mentally physically emotionally I dont have the capability to stay in the real world but I fear and see that they don't care about that its about what you can do even to do cleaning job and im not putting cleaners down far from it apparently you have to answer so many questions
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This post is not meant to devide people of who has what and who doesn't have what. It's discussion of what some people put in for when they think they have a condition worthy of PIP. Stop trying to defend yourselves or your anxieties and explain what you think deserves gaining pip in this post. I've seen post's stating that " I must have adhd too" how would they assume that?. Keep posting though, because it's becoming interesting. Whatever you say about me is water off a ducks back, I honestly don't care.
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Me too Chris
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As this is beginning to turn argumentative we have decided to close this discussion and may reopen it again tomorrow.
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