Uc - has anyone seen a claimant taking DWP to tribunal over statements?

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,910 Championing

    @michael57, while we accept that the DWP has the authority to request these documents, it’s important to acknowledge how uncomfortable the process can be for claimants.

    Compliance doesn’t remove the emotional toll, being asked to go through four months of personal spending line by line is a significant burden.

    The vast majority of people claiming benefits are doing so legitimately, and these checks can feel intrusive even when someone is following every requirement.

    For disabled people in particular, the cognitive and emotional effort involved can be genuinely overwhelming. I know that I, personally, would find that process very stressful and intrusive if anyone asked me to complete a task like that.

  • michael57
    michael57 Posts: 1,992 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1099111#Comment_1099111

    Whilst I totally agree with you on pip fraud the government figures show that its a slightly different story for means tested benifits if you believe them

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,983 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1099097#Comment_1099097

    Oh ok Thankyou mw

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,983 Championing

    I despair everything is being normalised to question someone on a twelve pound purchase ??? What point is that not hardly the great train robbery is it ? Its the anxiety torment the feeling of losing everything waiting for them to call its cruel its sick yes question big items whos aurging with that its the psychological aspect that is designed to make the claimant feel uneasy to make it as unpleasant as possible no thought or protection for the claimant who is already ill just because you find it perfectly reasonable doesnt mean others do especially people with mental heath problems

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,983 Championing
    edited February 2

    No one talks of the 24 million that goes unclaimed in welfare yearly anyways

  • michael57
    michael57 Posts: 1,992 Championing

    I find it perfectly reasonable if some people feel the need to lie and hide money in other people's accounts or lie just to carry on getting benefits they are not entitled to using the mental health get out of jail card does not make it right or morally justifiable

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,910 Championing

    @michael57,  it’s important not to jump from someone saying the process feels intrusive to assuming they’re lying or trying to hide money.

    Most claimants are completely genuine, and finding the level of scrutiny distressing doesn’t reflect on anyone’s honesty.

    People with mental health conditions aren’t using a ‘get out of jail card’, they are describing the very real anxiety and fear these checks can trigger. Feeling overwhelmed by the process is not the same as committing fraud.

    This is a disabled forum, and people discussing their fears and anxieties about the system is not a reflection on their integrity as claimants.

  • michael57
    michael57 Posts: 1,992 Championing

    I am and have not assumed anything I would assume tho that someone who suffers from the conditions you mention would find it harder to explain in a court of law as opposed to a uc check as to why they ignored the rules that they signed to get uc in the first place tho

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,910 Championing

    @michael57, the scenario you’re describing isn’t how the system operates.

    Nobody is taken to court for finding the process overwhelming or for struggling with the administrative side of a UC check. Court action is reserved for cases of proven, deliberate fraud, which is entirely different from what anyone here has described.

    People in this thread are talking about the emotional and cognitive impact of the process, not about ignoring rules or breaching their claim conditions.

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    Community_Scope Posts: 2,094 Scope Online Community Coordinator

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