Is there a job for everyone
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I have 28 hours a week of support worker time (4 hours a day, 7 days a week), at least I'm supposed to, in practice it almost never happens.
If I was to work full time, I'd lose that which is NOT feasible.
The fact I can't even get a part time job's irrelevant.
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I think this depends on what people mean when they say 'there’s a job for everyone'.
Yes there is probably a job for every person in this country where the employer would be willing to hire them, but no there isn't a job for everyone as in even if there's employers willing to employ 'anyone', some people just may not be able to hold down a full time job or even a part time one if they're severely physically disabled or have serious mental health/neurodiverse issues.
So it’s not always about not trying hard enough, for some people it’s about real limits not lack of effort.
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86 years ago, nobody would have had a choice, when you think about it. They would mobilised anyone who could fight or work.
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And that right there's what the right don't get, they tar the entire disabled population with the "workshy slave to the benefit system" brush.
The irony is, in the right circumstances, I COULD work, I just can't get a job due to limited availability due to have 28 hours a week of support workers, which I can't lose.
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For someone who genuinely can’t work it doesn’t come down to choice.
Even 86 years ago if someone who genuinely can't work was forced into it, it doesn’t mean they would have been able to cope or sustain it. 86 years ago a lot of people would've died because of it.
Some people who we're genuinely not well enough to work (and I'm not just talking about people who're physically disabled but also people who're physically fine but are not mentally well enough) have been classed as fit for work, and you know what happened? They didn't end up getting a job and living happily ever after, they ended up either starving to death with their electricity and gas cut off or were driven to suicide because of not being able to cope.
That’s more the distinction I’m trying to make, expectation isn’t the same as ability.
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Man starved after benefits were cut | Oxford Mail
Jodey Whiting: Court of Appeal grants new benefit death inquest - BBC News
Michael O’Sullivan scandal: DWP twice pushed dad-of-two to suicide bids – Disability News Service
Documents show WCA suicide death mirrored 2010 tragedy – Disability News Service
There's many more.
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I understand that mental health wasn’t understood back then but that actually supports my point.
If anything, people who weren’t well enough to work would have been even less understood and more likely to be pushed into things they couldn’t cope with.
Thank God we're not still in the 1940's.
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Good job they won the war then 😀 They put up with a lot in those days to give us the life we have today. They didn’t have time to think about anxiety or depression, it was where the bomb was coming from or the next meal, or if you had an house to live in. We’re so fortunate that they changed things then. After the war they began the big rebuild and there couldn’t have been any excuse not to work.
We obviously don’t want it to happen again, but in a way we could do with those some of those days back. We pulled together, but now we seem to pull apart or say we can’t do things or we can’t be bothered and the state will look after us. Everyone in the country needs to change their mind set and realise the government can’t do everything or pay for everything. A lot think it’s a right to have money for nothing, and it’s not working out.
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And that's the killer, if a certain Party becomes the next government, we're likely to go that far back IMO, they'd put anyone wot can't get a job into "Workhouses", even if they're not mentally or physically capable of working.
I'll be remembering that when I vote in the locals next week.
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It is not just one party that will be looking to cut the Benefit Bill and to suggest that we would go back to "Workhouses" is scare mongering.
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I wouldn't put it past certain Political entities, but it'll never happen so don't worry.
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I was just thinking that with Reform we'd be going backwards and we'd end up living in a less civilised world again rather than progressing, very bleak.
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It really wouldn't surprise me with Reform.
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Tories, Labour, Reform, Lib Dem’s and the Greens will change the way benefits are paid. So there’s really nothing to worry about, who ever you vote for will do it.
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Not having the time to think about anxiety or depression doesn't make them go away, you don't think them into existence, it just doesn't work like that, lol.
And anxiety and depression if severe enough are not just excuses to not work.
Your attitude towards anxiety and depression is quite offensive towards those people suffering from them and as a consequence we're genuinely not well enough to work and then died because of the DWP. Did you not even read any of the stories that I gave you links to? Or if you did read any did you just not take them seriously?
Trust me if you we're living back in those times it wouldn't be any good for you at all, no doubt about that SwiftFox, and that's a 100% fact, you'd be willing to give anything to come back to 2026.
Anyway the point I've been trying to make is not about people who can work but chose not too, it has only ever been about people who genuinely aren’t able to work whether it's because of a physical disability or mental health. Those people existed back then too, even if they weren’t understood or supported in the same way.
So it’s not really about effort or attitude, it’s about ability, and if someone isn't able to have the time to think about mental illness or having someone trying to force them into work it wont cure them and make them capable of work.
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Absolutely, and that right there's what people of a certain Political persuasion don't seem to get, that with the best will in the world, some people just weren't born to be part of the working public.
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Let's stay on topic! The title of this thread is:
Is there a job for everyone?3 -
Definitely. I just applied for a job licking stamps! 😂
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