Is there a job for everyone

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  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,720 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1121241#Comment_1121241

    "That's the hardest job in the world, innit, eh?"

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Posts: 1,107 Championing
    edited April 26
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1121238#Comment_1121238

    I agree, I think the discussion has drifted a bit with talk about 86 years ago and WWII.

    So lets get it back to answering the original question, not everyone is able to work, so in that sense there isn’t a job for everyone.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,897 Connected
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1121248#Comment_1121248

    Absolutely, I mean come on, in December 2015 they declared me unfit to work, yet for most of the previous 20 years I'd been doing voluntary work for almost every Charity this side of Sheffield so is it not obvious I could work in SOME capacity?

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 5,516 Online Community Team

    Hi everyone. Appreciate this is an important topic so we're bound to have strong opinions but just a gentle reminder to please be respectful of one another.

  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 794 Pioneering

    There is very little sinister about the Fabian Society. It's an independent, democratic socialist think tank, affiliated to the Labour Party.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1122319#Comment_1122319

    I won’t have to do any work with what I’ve got, so sorry.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing

    Nobody will untouchable, including pensioners. Attendance allowance, Pension credit and even pensions and heating allowance, they're all vulnerable to change or being stopped.

    It's not just benefits that will be cut, it's the job lot. They even class pension as a benefit.

  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 794 Pioneering
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1122346#Comment_1122346

    The Fabian Society goes way back, it helped guide a fledgling Labour Party. Not everything is part of some great plot.

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 3,313 Championing

    Some information about The Fabian Society.

    https://fabians.org.uk/about-us/
  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 3,313 Championing

    I am fine thank you @Catherine21

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1122433#Comment_1122433

    He had largely renounced Fabian Society gradualism, and often wrote and spoke favorably of dictatorships of the right and left—he expressed admiration for both Mussolini and Stalin. So that made him a dangerous man. Surely you wouldn't condone such a man with his beliefs in tyrants?.

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  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,897 Connected
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1122518#Comment_1122518

    Mass Genocide of all disabled people will NEVER happen, no matter how much the far right bleats about it.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 8,461 Online Community Team
    edited May 1

    I think we've gone quite off course from the original discussion here, can we try to get back on topic now please?

    There will always be people who are unable to work for whatever reason and those people should have support too. But what kind of changes do you think would help us move towards a future where fewer disabled people who can work are long term unemployed?

    What do you think the government or businesses could do to help make 'a job for everyone' a reality?

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,897 Connected
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1122554#Comment_1122554

    I'm fully aware it'll never happen but they should actually enforce the Equality Act 2010, so that applications from disabled potential employees aren't binned without even being looked at.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 473 Pioneering

    The questions about enough jobs for disabled people is misleading. Basic economics cannot function without a population of unemployed people. There will always not be enough suitable jobs for people, especially when there's a huge skills or numbers mismatch (as there is in the UK). disabled people, alongside other marginalised groups, face the biggest brunt of unemployment.

    The only way to combat long-term unemployment, especially for marginalised groups (such as disabled ppl) are to:

    • move to a more centrally planned economy where employers are mandated into hiring people from these groups, with full enforcement of the laws
    • implement various reforms such as universal basic income, lower retirement age, heavily subsidised childcare, and a humane benefits assessment process, therefore people who cant/shouldn't work can leave the workforce without penalties
    • change the culture beyond capitalist narratives (ie. if you cant work, you're worthless) to one rooted in compassion and care

    personally, I'd also go as far as to argue employers guilty of the most egregious discrimination should face severe fines, with the line managers/CEOs that are directly responsible imprisoned for years and their assets seized. Sounds harsh but workplace discrimination destroys lives and careers, as i'm sure many isabled people can relate to

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,897 Connected
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1122576#Comment_1122576

    I 100% agree but I just know it'll never happen, especially if Reform ever gets in.

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