When will we have a proper Labour party

SwiftFox
SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

I just wish we could go back to a proper Labour Party and not a Blair or Miliband party, lets go back to grass roots where they used to help people. Politicians get richer as we get poorer.

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  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing
  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 541 Trailblazing

    This will never happen. The Labour party got hijacked by conservatives decades ago and embedded themselves so deep within the internal machinery that the party must be replaced at this point.

    The closest we have to socialism in the UK is the Green Party, alongside nationalist parties in the other constituent countries.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

    Do you mean by infuence?..I can only find a couple who defected.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,180 Connected

    Indeed.

    Politicians get richer and richer, whereas poor sods like me will only ever be Rich by name 😫

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,180 Connected

    Yeah, I don't think they'll get in but I'll be voting Green at the next GE.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 541 Trailblazing
  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,180 Connected

    I still think he should be charged with War crimes for taking us into an ILLEGAL War in Iraq at the behest of George W Bush, they never did find any WMDs.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,641 Championing
  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

    To be fair, he is leaving benefits alone this time. But the greens won't apparently, now they're getting disgruntled with their leader, well the people who started are. They say Polanski hijack the party?.

    ( Just to say..Keep it civil in the thread, no matter your politics.😁)

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 541 Trailblazing

    The Kings Speech is said to feature restrictions on incapacity benefits for under 22s. This is literally factually incorrect.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,641 Championing

    Why under 22 - I wonder

    At 22 - you could legally be married with a 6 year old child and a mortgage !

    It does seem that a half wit has decided these rules !

  • Akhtar64
    Akhtar64 Community Member Posts: 17 Connected

    Labour party is handicapped by the mismanaged and over the top spending by Rishi Sunak via the furlough scheme where he paid full wages during the lock down instead of paying unemployment benefit until they could return to work which would have been far cheaper than the furlough scheme. The furlough scheme was further abused by rogue elements setting up phantom companies claiming payments for phantom employees. He made this worse by spending on "Eat out to help out" and drafting in foreign workers and nurses especially from India

  • Akhtar64
    Akhtar64 Community Member Posts: 17 Connected

    Pensioners, private landlords and farmers have voted for other parties in protest to unfair taxes and laws recently passed against them. Labour needs to make new laws to re-assure landlords that rogue tenants will not be allowed to abuse the renters rights law. The rents will then come down again making it easier for the tenants to secure affordable rents and council house waiting lists.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

    Yes that did make it worse, think it was boris and sunak together.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

    Politicians take more notice of think tanks, than thinking for themselves to be honest.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

    Welfare spending on poor people dropped by 25% under the

    United Kingdom government austerity programme

    of 2010 - 2019, cuts to

    benefits that disabled people

    receive were significant,

    Personal Independence Payments

    and

    Employment and Support Allowance

    have both dropped by 10%. Over half of families living below the breadline have at least one relative with a disability. Cuts include, tax credits (£4.6bn), universal credit (£3.6bn), child benefit (£3.4bn), disability benefits (£2.8bn),

    Employment and Support Allowance

    and

    Incapacity Benefit

    (£2bn) and housing benefit (£2.3bn).

    Frank Field

    said, "A £37bn attack has been mounted on the living standards of many of our fellow citizens to such an extent that possibly millions struggle to keep on top of their rent, pay the bills and buy adequate food. Likewise, an unknown number are unable to clothe their children properly before sending them to school where all too many of these children not only rely on

    free school dinners

    as a cornerstone of their diet, but on breakfast and supper clubs as well."

    There's obviously more food banks where there wasn't in the 90s. But it is reported people that don't need food banks are using them, just like some are claiming benefits that don't need too and some are claiming and working on the side. I suppose it could be said if that was sorted, then there would be plenty for everyone without the need for cuts. But it's not just benefits that are being affected, it's all the lower class who are suffering too that rely on on a decent living. Automation like the Industrial Revolution of 1760 to 1840 have changed the way we worked forever.