Single Sex Toilets

I can understand the concern where women have experienced former abuse, & therefore the reluctance to admit someone assigned male at birth to share a toilet with themselves as 'biological' females, but doubt the majority of these pose any risk at all.

On the flip side of this, my eldest grandchild was assigned female at birth, but when they became 18 a few years ago identified that they felt male, which we've all as a family happily accepted. At work they were offered to use a 'disabled' toilet, & perhaps if more of these were publicly offered, that could be a solution for all.

I can't open the link. The only options are to let the Guardian send my data to 139 places or to pay. Each to their own, but I'm not being forced into either of those choices. I do find it sad that 'news' companies operate in this way now. Just goes to show it's all about money, not about impartially providing all news for readers to make their own decisions.

On the topic, this is one that I struggle with. I try to treat everyone equally. But the more time I spend on this forum, and the internet in general, it seems like people don't actually want to be treated equally. Some want to be treated as more important than others. This was highlighted by a large thread on Scope a few weeks ago. I found it very interesting to read. But also really struggled with it 'morally' as it just doesn't fit my idea of equality.

The problem I have is that some being treated as more important obviously means others are treated as less important. Trans people, whether born male or female, are still people. I can (at least partly) understand the fear that women have around men. I experience fear around a lot of men myself. I don't have the strength to fight off any attackers. However, when it comes to toilets, I wonder where it ends. Do women also feel unsafe if a biological woman with a beard and an artificial appendage uses the ladies toilet? Do they feel unsafe if a lesbian uses the ladies toilet? Do they feel unsafe if a woman who has inherited masculine features uses the ladies toilet?

I hadn't seen the story or the thread, but after the Supreme Court ruling it was always going to happen

People are going to argue blue on both sides … my views on everyone is; I'll treat you with respect until you disrespect me and mine. You can be whoever you want to be as long as you're not harming anyone else. Whilst I'd find it disconcerting stood by a woman with a bigger manhood than me … they're not harming me. (Not that I look)

I'm a survivor of male on male trauma, and feel a lot more uncomfortable around men than I do around any Trans Person.

As long as people don't argue with hate every opinion is valid ?