Yin Yang Kitty Therapy

StarryEyed
StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

There are all kinds of therapies out there and I've been doing one since I was young - first in the context of undergoing constant criticism as a child, then criticism in the psychiatric system, then criticism in the medical system. All criticisms were deemed reasons to justify harming me in various ways.

Fortunately I have a resilient core, and I've kept defending myself sufficiently to escape the childhood trauma and the medical trauma. However, due to an incurable psychiatric illness, I cannot completely prevent further psychiatric trauma. Regardless of my escapes, the effects of the trauma continue to be a challenge to digest and assimilate. But I continue on my quest of acceptance. As the decades have passed, I've also learned the importance of treating others with acceptance. Acceptance of self and others is a real game changer.

I recently came across these images on Pinterest that are an excellent summary of this approach of my inner resilient voice. So I've decided to call this therapeutic approach Yin Yang Kitty Therapy. 😊

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I'm wondering if others might want to share a bit about the value of acceptance? Or maybe you have a different experience and don't find acceptance valuable?

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  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 4,799 Online Community Team

    I want to think a bit more about an answer to this, but just wanted to say that yin yang kitty therapy is an amazing name and I'd like to subscribe to any future sessions 😂

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    I looove the name too!!! 😂 Aren't the names of all therapies so boring and serious and functional sounding?! Just these names can be enough to put one off signing up, let alone having hope of getting better. 😁

    Looking forward to your thoughts. 👍🏼

  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 4,799 Online Community Team

    I have a need to be accepted and I get quite upset when people don't like me. I try to rationalise it and remind myself that I don't like everyone I've ever met because sometimes personalities just clash, but I still struggle. I think it's really important to be able to accept yourself for who you are. That's taken me a long time to do and I'm still not there yet. I think once you've managed that, being accepted by others won't seem as important. That's what I hope anyway!

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing
    edited June 3

    Yes!!! Zactly the same for me! 😊 And there's no one that everyone likes. Absolutely no one. Never was anyone and probably never will be anyone.

    I used to think accepting that was declaring peace. But I know what peaceful feels like, and it's never felt peaceful. Recently with (more) family drama, I came up with the idea that the acceptance is really a truce, rather than a declaration of peace. A truce is quite different than peace. But I'm okay with that. I think a truce is more realistic.

    So acceptance can be a truce. It is not necessarily even a peaceful feeling. Would you describe your stance as a declaration of peace or a truce? On that note, here's one of my favourite songs by the Eagles, 'Peaceful, Easy Feeling'... 😊

  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 4,799 Online Community Team

    I'd not actually heard that song before, so thanks, I love it!

    Sorry you've got some family drama. Are you able to stay out of it for the most part? I think a truce is kinder on yourself as peace to me is accepting everything forever, if that makes sense? A truce is more temporary which can be taken away if the other person's actions are too far removed from what you consider acceptable. As I've got older I've definitely got better at choosing the right people to be in my life and I put time and effort into the relationships that are positive with no drama. Luckily my family is very small so there isn't much opportunity for drama.

    Accepting myself is the thing that's difficult. Should I make peace with who I am? I mean that makes me sound like I'm some sort of tyrant, I promise I'm not 😂

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    Hi @Rachel_Scope

    You're welcome 😊

    Yes, I'm on a break from the part of the family that's problematic. Four months now. In the context of the language of our discussion here, it just occurred to me that this break isn't even a truce, but a cease-fire. 😁 When we get back together (planned over the next few weeks), I'll frame it as a truce. Yes, I do like the idea that a truce is temporary and flexible. I mean really isn't true peace always just a pie in the sky, because dynamics are always changing? So maybe a truce is the best any of us can really hope for.

    Speaking about other angles of my life, I think a truce is a fair assessment all around, including between parts of myself. We all have parts of ourselves that are challenging. ((I totally can't see you as a tyrant! No! ❤️)) For me, trying to silence or deny those challenging parts has been both ineffective and counterproductive.

    My tiny, little, eensie, weensie voice of protest as a child has grown stronger over the years, but I'm still so far off from healthy in being able to defend myself. But if I consider the destructive forces I've faced since forever, my voice is like a lion's roar. Because shouldn't what we're up against factor into the equation of our strength? I try to consider that when I fall apart in conflict, and accept that I'm doing my best. And accept everyone else is doing their best. We're all imperfect. We've all messed up. And we're all going to keep messing up. Somewhere in there is acceptance. And somewhere is defeat. A bit of both.

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing
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    Another beautiful thought from a very interesting man. 😊

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 5,944 Championing
    edited July 22

    An interesting article.

    Instead of Divine Source I would say inner strength.

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    Thank for posting that. 🙏 My wording changes with the wind 😊

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    So to get into the darkness a little deeper and with guidance, I've been listening to dark poetry. Reading poetry is difficult for me because I can't focus and it often doesn't make sense. But in listening to well-read poetry, it makes more sense because of the voice giving more meaning to the words through tone, inflection, speed and the like. It's also more enjoyable for me to hear it read aloud rather than just reading it to myself. You can find lots of poetry readings on Insight timer (thanks again for the recommendation @SmellyBin 🙏😘), YouTube and Audible.

    There can actually be much beauty in the darkness. Here's one I love, 'When I Die' by Pablo Neruda. I hope you like it too.

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    The more I look into the darkness, the more full my life feels. This week I'm starting IFS therapy (internal family systems) with a view to better understanding my suicidal part - other parts too, but especially this part. I'm doing this through a book called 'No Bad Parts' by the founder of this therapy, Richard Schwartz.

    Recently I came across a song I'd never heard - 'God' by John Lennon. I'm not too keen on the song itself, but the lyrics are just wow - especially as read here by Cillian Murphy.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,376 Online Community Team

    I've read that book @StarryEyed, my therapist does a bit of IFS with me and it's a really interesting concept. There are a few videos on YouTube of Richard Schwartz doing sessions with people, it's amazing to watch it in action. Hope you find it helps you understand more about yourself ☺️

  • SmellyBin
    SmellyBin Community Member Posts: 654 Empowering

    Oh wow, I've read the lyrics and gosh what a timely topic with the current state of the world, it being very much about egos, whether we're talking politicians or big tech guys. Pffff.

    My therapist is always telling me about self-compassion (which I was struggling with this very morning) and the idea of 'no bad parts,' really resonates in that sense, @StarryEyed Thanks for bringing that up.

    Something else… I am wondering about what you call darkness. Does that include being slow? Something that otherwise would be seen as negative? The grey area of 'you could do better?' Does it include worrying, instead of showing a shiny, happy bright version of yourself?
    Just thinking out loud here, no need to discuss if you don't feel like it (right now or whenever) 🌸

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing
    edited September 1

    You read the book and have done IFS with your therapist?! Really? You're the only one I know to have done either, let alone both. I've been trying to get into it for about two years now, but I've been so busy getting adapted to my new physical disabilities that it keeps falling by the wayside. My suicidal part is getting stronger the more disabled I get, and I never considered that part in IFS. So this week I starting over on page one, with my suicidal part on-board.

    By darkness I mean difficult thoughts, such as:

    I want to kill myself.

    I hate my life

    I hate the world.

    X person is a piece of pooh.

    I will forever be doomed to suffering.

    The pain is intolerable

    I will never be able to put a viable life together.

    By darkness I also mean difficult feelings, such as:

    I feel worthless.

    I feel stupid

    I feel vulnerable.

    I feel like a lost case.

    I feel buried in shame.

    Those are general examples to give you an idea of what I mean by darkness.

    Internal family systems (IFS) looks into the darkness by looking at groups of thoughts and feelings that make up parts, or personalities. It's based on a model that, loosely speaking, we are all multiple personalities, and we can learn through this therapy how to get these personalities to get along with eachother.

    I did parts work in the past that was very successful, so I'm hopeful with IFS.

    Hopefully you find that helpful. 😊

    Edit to add P.S. I'm rusty on my CBT training as to distinguishing thoughts from feelings, but that's the general idea

  • SmellyBin
    SmellyBin Community Member Posts: 654 Empowering

    Yup @StarryEyed I find that indeed helpful, thanks. And thanks for being open and honest, not everyone would dare to admit this - despite the feelings probably resonate for a lot of people. The unworthiness sounds very familiar to me, let me just state that.

    What I also definitely want to state: you are a appreciated member of this online community, I hope you realize that. I know for sure I am not the only one thinking you have often something worth sharing! Hang in there, honey.

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    Gee shucks! Thank you for your kind words, @SmellyBin. My feelings are thankfully quite common, so that's why therapies really work for me, because therapies are made from and for common people. 😊 I love how we each have something special to bring to this forum and to this world. There are no two people alike, though we all share similarities. I love that apparent contradiction.

    Thankfully I also have the opposites of the above thoughts and feelings, what we think of as the light. So that's where CBT comes in, to put them all together, then form what they call "balanced thoughts". I'm actually going to take a refresher in CBT to help with the IFS therapy. That's likely to be a powerful mix. 👍🏼💪🏼😊

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    @Rosie_Scope, would you be comfortable sharing the reason you do IFS?

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,376 Online Community Team

    Hi @StarryEyed, I have quite complex trauma from experiencing childhood illness and all the stuff that came with it, so my brain can be an interesting place to say the least!

    My therapist is an integrative therapist, so it's not the only thing we do but it does form part of our sessions. I'd already recognised that in certain situations I would feel like I was a different age, or that I'd shut off automatically. IFS was quite useful for identifying the parts that come into play in those situations and understanding why I might react to things the way I do. It's also helped build some compassion towards the parts of myself that are more challenging to accept, but that's something I still have to work very hard on. I wouldn't say I'm anywhere near an expert on it, but it's been interesting to explore!

  • StarryEyed
    StarryEyed Community Member Posts: 1,867 Championing

    Hi @Rosie_Scope. I'm so sorry you had such a rough childhood with your illness and related issues. It's incredible how damaging childhood trauma is on the body, mind and spirit. It can be just devastating. My heart goes out to you. ❤️

    It's encouraging to hear you have improved with IFS and have built up hope to continue improving. Hope is key, isn't it? In anything in life, including therapy. 🙂

    The parts work I did started when I started talking about my childhood trauma, which was at the age of 27 in 1990, and I finished in 2012. But I did it on my own because I couldn't afford a therapist (and still can't), and back then all there was was the model of ego states. So that's what I called my parts.

    Do you get creative with your integrative work of your parts? I was quite creative and plan to be again this time around. For example, I named my parts, wrote about them, dressed up as them, bought stuff for them. It was actually even fun at times.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,376 Online Community Team

    Thanks for your kind words @StarryEyed ❤️ I haven't, but that sounds like a fun way to explore further! I do try to have a vision in my head of what they look like though.