Defense contract

Andi66
Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,437 Championing
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I saw that defense mp John Healey has done a contract with a US company called Plantiar (excuse spelling) and people uproar. I read its some data thing .what is it and how does it effect us in the UK

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  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,583 Championing
    edited June 6
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/146841/defense-contract

    In theory - the fact that it is a foreign country - should make no difference to data protection laws in UK — £240 million is absolutely nothing when you look at the bigger picture (EDS got an £8 billion contract with MOD in the 90's which I was unfortunately involved in) - needless to say - it failed !

    UK has also got a more problematical £330million NHS contract with the same company - that's the one that you should be concerned about !

    The UK Ministry of Defence has a major data-analytics deal with Palantir. Here’s what’s currently in place:

    Main MoD Defence Contract

    • Value: £240 million over 3 years
    • Awarded: December 2025, came into effect 1 April 2026
    • Scope: "Enterprise agreement" for data analytics capabilities supporting critical strategic, tactical and live operational decision-making across classifications. It’s interoperable with NATO and other allied nations’ Palantir systems
    • Scale: More than 3x larger than the MoD’s previous £75.2m agreement from late 2022
    • Procurement: Awarded without tender
    • Purpose: Part of efforts to "modernise defence" and underpin the Army’s Asgard "kill chain" programme, which uses Palantir to identify targets

    Other Related UK Government Contracts

    1. National Firearms Licensing Management System: £9m deal to run the database for all 43 police forces in England and Wales. Starts September this year, runs to 2031 with option to 2036. Also holds Home Office data on explosives, explosive precursors and poisons
    2. NHS Federated Data Platform: £330 million contract
    3. Previous MoD work: UK has worked with Palantir since at least 2018

    Context & Controversy

    The deal has drawn scrutiny in Parliament. A House of Commons Science, Innovation and Technology Committee report called the government’s reliance on Palantir an “unacceptable point of weakness”. Critics flag Palantir’s ties to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Israel Defence Forces, and concerns about revolving-door hiring - Palantir hired four ex-MoD officials in 2024, including a director involved in the Strategic Defence Review.

    A Daily Telegraph interview claimed the December 2025 MoD deal was worth £240m for 3 years, and MPs including Jeremy Corbynand Ellie Chownshave criticized it publicly.

    Ministers have said UK defence data “remains sovereign” despite the contract, but some army sources say they’re working on a British equivalent so they can’t be “held hostage” by a US firm.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,583 Championing
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  • egiste2r
    egiste2r Posts: 88 Connected

    This means that the UK's armed forces will be controlled from the Pentagon.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,583 Championing
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/reform-nhs-data-immigration-raids-5HjdWGY_2/

    More worryingly - read this

  • egiste2r
    egiste2r Posts: 88 Connected

    I think they could have just as easily written Netanyahu or Merz instead of Farage.

  • MissMarple
    MissMarple Community Member Posts: 420 Empowering

    Palantir is a big American corporation that specialises in data. Collecting, analysing, using artificial intelligence, facial recognition softwares etc. Basically, they have mass surveillance capacities, integrating data from all kinds of sources. They work with the US military, intelligence, immigration enforcement etc. There have been concerns about their overstepping the line in terms of what they do with all the data and who benefits from it. Several of Palantir's directors have ties to international alt-right movements or want AI/tech government instead of democracy. E.g. the billionaire Peter Thiel who "no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible". Giving access to a foreign company like that to a vast amount of sensitive data of UK citizens (e.g. NHS contract), UK defence etc. is extremely concerning because we can't know how the data will be used, possibly for political purposes by foreign companies/governments.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,583 Championing
    edited June 7

    ICE and Palantir are working together to deport foreigners from US

    And Peter Mandelson holds shares with Palantir !

    Am I concerned ?

    You bet your life I am………to start with I have decided to opt out of sharing my personal data…..

    https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-the-nhs/opt-out-of-sharing-your-health-records/

    Here is a letter to send to your MP to let them know that this is not right

    https://keepournhspublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Sample-letter-for-MPs.pdf

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 500 Trailblazing

    Palintir is just one of many Zionist entities that Westminster are cosying up to in order to facilitate genocide in Palestine. And how they treat Palestinians is how they want to treat the rest of us.

    Also the CEO of Palintir is a horrible person politically.

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