Removal of Health Element Of UC For Under 25s, Including Current Recipients?
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I think extra support to help young people into employment or suitable education is much needed but I don't agree with taking the LCWRA element from them. Surely that would be considered ageist in some way? I suppose they already do it with the housing element and standard allowance is lower I think for young people too? Not 100% sure on that one though.
More broadly, I think the government needs to look at why so many are out of work or education, because £217 really isn't the incentive they think it is. And let's be real, LCWRA is difficult to qualify for. They just know they can spin this in the media to get the general population behind them.
Honestly, mental health support is a sham, the education system hasn't changed or updated for a long time and young people are disengaged long before they get to this point.
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the moral panic continues apace. this would be state sanctioned murder of young people should these plans come into fruition.
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Will most of these young people not still live with their parent(s)? I'm sure we all know at least one who hasn't worked a day since leaving school, I know i do.
Real training with job placements would be far more beneficial for NEETS. I really hope the UK government actually mean to help them this time, no more sticking plasters.
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I originally qualified under the youth rules at the time aged 19 - I wasn't well enough to work & my mother wouldn't have been able to keep me financially on her low wage alongside debt and not managing her money that well.
I did complete my further education (with a year repeated due to previous illness), and was looking for a job getting interviews when my health really deteriorated.
I was only able to attend college at all due to the Educational Maintenance Allowance & free bus pass. I'm not sure it would have been possible for me to manage with the previous hardship funds that were available.
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"One possible plan is for a separate regime to apply to the under-25 agegroup, with reduced or withdrawn entitlements – although those with the most severe and debilitating disabilities would not lose any money."
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"Officials have looked at systems in other countries, such as Denmark, which restricts access to its “disability pension” for under-40s, who instead are given help with flexible jobs and training unless they have no ability permanently to work."
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If it's anything like the severe conditions group for UC - most people who are still very unwell won't qualify. It's all extremely secretive DWP won't publish documents etc and it's very rare to hear of anyone being admitted into that group. Basically, it would unlikely to be a viable option for many very unwell young people.
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This had quite a strong response last time it was tabled. It will be interesting to see how it goes down with MPs under Andy Burnham.
For anyone who's interested to read more around this subject, I'd recommend reading through the Millburn Interim Report if you're able to. It's long, but there's lots of information there about the reasoning behind what the Government might be seeking to do next for young people who are out of work. Just bear in mind that this is not the final report, just an indication of what might be covered.
Some of the support they're hoping to put into place sounds promising, but I hope it's delivered sensitively and that any negative impacts are considered properly. It does sound like protections will be put in place for young people who can't access work or training opportunities, but again, we'll have to see how this works practically.
Lots to keep an eye on in the coming months, I'm sure!
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The 20 something over the road from me, he lies in bed all day, and plays online games all night. I know about the games, as he shouts next to an open window throughout the night.
How is it helping the likes of him to lead this non life, from school leaver to pensionable age? Should ADHD be a life sentence?
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I think that's the kind of person that the Millburn Report's proposals will be trying to support @ChrisR777. If the government can engage young people and provide genuine support to those who might find employment or training challenging, that's always going to be a positive. It's just working out how to do this in a way that is supportive, sustainable and produces long term change without too many negative consequences. Which is no mean feat, I'm sure!
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To be honest I think more and more families are broken down and apart, and it's not uncommon for young people not to live with parents any more.
in cases like this I don't think removing the element will do anything to change his situation at all, I do worry that there's a bit of a lost generation 😕 the amount of my daughter's friends who live similarly is quite shocking really.
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I have one who is doing her Master's, whilst working in a supermarket. She lives in a private flat share.
The younger one lives with her mum and has never had a job in the 2+ years since leaving school, but is at least doing a degree with the Open University. That's still sitting in the house, but nothing i can say or do about it, as i have no contact with either of them, sadly.
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Originally, it was the under 22s being considered for removal of the UC health element; now it's the under 25s, including existing claimants! Who is fighting for their future? No wonder they are so depressed and resentful of older folk.
Also in the article:
More broadly, officials are working up plans under the replacement system for a new set of eligibility criteria and assessments for the extra costs of disability, and looking at whether this would apply to all claimants of working age, or those below a cut-off point such as 50 or 60.
Is this a recognition of the fact that 60+ is senior even if we are all now 'of working age'?
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