Motability Scheme Now Kaput?

MrHappy2
MrHappy2 Community Member Posts: 64 Contributor
edited October 2 in Transport and travel

On the 1st October the latest quarterly Motability car scheme numbers were released and its pretty clear the scheme is now in a world of trouble. All premium vehicles have been removed and if one takes away the electric cars all that's left are 384 petrol cars. A far cry from the days when over 1000 petrol cars were available each quarter. Couple that with yet another hike in advance payments its looking increasingly likely the Daily Mail's campaign to have the Motability scheme permanently closed is gaining ever more traction.

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  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 2,039 Championing

    Is there a reason you require a 'premium' car? Many full time workers can't afford such a vehicle.

  • MrHappy2
    MrHappy2 Community Member Posts: 64 Contributor
    edited October 2

    @ChrisR777 Where exactly in my original post did i say i require a premium car? I do not have nor do i desire a premium car so please refrain from making factually false accusations.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 2,039 Championing

    Why mention premium cars then? Any old make will carry your wheelchair, as long as it has the correct dimensions.

    If I had my way, there would be several sized hatchbacks and estates, also an adequately sized MPV for those who need to transport a wheelchair, and or need the extra height.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,689 Online Community Team

    I don't think we're at the point where the Motability scheme will be closed completely, but I can understand the worry behind that. There are certainly conversations happening over the affordability of the scheme in some places and whether it could be better managed so that it's sustainable for years to come.

    There's a bit about recent changes on the Motability website here: Motability Scheme changes | Motability Scheme

    Do you think any of the changes will affect you much @MrHappy2?

  • MrHappy2
    MrHappy2 Community Member Posts: 64 Contributor

    @ChrisR777

    I mentioned many things in my original post including advance payments, diminishing numbers of vehicles across the entirety of the scheme, the removal of premium vehicles, the substantial reduction in petrol vehicles, and the Daily Mail's relentless campaign to end the Motability scheme. You chose to highlight only my reference to premium vehicles and then you chose to falsely accuse me of requiring a premium vehicle.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,689 Online Community Team

    Hi all, please try to keep things civil here. Tone can be difficult to read through text and there might be disagreements or misunderstandings sometimes. Try to give each other the benefit of the doubt if you can as these things can easily escalate.

  • egiste2r
    egiste2r Posts: 239 Connected

    I think by excluding premium cars from the Motability program, they have done such a stupid thing - the rich see that the same cars they have are given to disabled people in need for free, which, in their opinion, morally devalues the expensive cars used to demonstrate superiority over others.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community Member Posts: 6,470 Championing

    It's not rich people complaining about premium cars on Motability. It's working class people who see others on benefits getting things for free that they could never afford while working multiple jobs and missing out on life with their families…

    People who are actually rich can afford cars that have never been on the scheme…Bentley, Rolls, Maybach… They really aren't interested in someone with a blue badge driving a BMW.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 2,039 Championing

    I wish I knew why some Motability customers are obsessed with driving premium cars? I think they should be damned grateful the scheme exists at all.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community Member Posts: 6,470 Championing

    I don't think those cars are particularly premium in all honesty. Nowadays the quality of all cars has declined. The ones on MB were generally smaller models and low spec as well. If people can afford the AP for a car, it doesn't make any difference to the price Motability pay, so why does it matter to anyone else if it's just about money?

    I've even noticed they've removed the Audi A1…those are no different to a VW Polo. I find it weird that people obsess over a badge and assume any car with that badge must be 'premium'. Even BMW's aren't that premium nowadays, horrible cloth seats and ugly solid paintwork on the lower end models.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 2,039 Championing

    So their removal from the scheme is of no consequence? It's just a badge after all.

    I remember when a Land Rover Duscovery and a Jaguar XJ could be leased, before they tightened things up. This was about 2007, the first time I leased a Motability Car (Vauxhall Astra - no advance payment).

    The salesman told me that in his opinion, anyone who had ten grand to use as an advance payment, they should be buying their own car, and I agree.

    If a person hasn't worked in decades, why should they get to cut about in a premium car, a car most working people can't afford?

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community Member Posts: 6,470 Championing

    Partly correct. Where there are equivalent cars, it's no consequence to the people on MB. For example, the equivalent Skoda is better specced than an Audi nowadays.

    But in some cases there aren't equivalent cars from other brands. Or the equivalent model is only EV for example, which doesn't work for people without access to charge at home. The idea of removing cars just based on badge doesn't make sense.

    The consequence is actually to the brand - who loses out on a lot of new car sales, and therefore pays the UK government less tax. And the working class people who would have bought those cars second hand. Motability buys a huge number of new cars every year, they make a considerable contribution to the economy and the car market every year.

    I disagree about the AP as well. Some people need larger cars, which inevitably cost more. For example, a parent with disabilities themself, and two kids with different disabilities. They need a car with a high seating position, large boot, automatic gearbox, space in the rear. That type of car costs more than a regular hatchback, and therefore has a higher AP. The highest AP's tend to be on WAVs, where even the cheapest one requires a £5k AP.

    Personally, I've had a large number of different used cars over the years, because I struggled to find anything that met my medical needs and a quick test drive was never enough to know how it would be over a longer time. I didn't rule out any model just because of the badge on the front or the price when it was new. That seems like a bizarre way to decide which cars disabled people should be 'allowed' to me.

    As for working class people not being able to afford the car they would like, they are right to be angry about that. Working doesn't pay nowadays. Everything costs too much and wages are too low in comparison. But that anger should be directed towards the government, not disabled people.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 2,039 Championing

    I would encourage anyone who feels they are being victimised by the state, because they can no longer lease a BMW on Motability; I would encourage them to write to their MP, see how much public sympathy they can attract.