Common Sense Prevails?

it's only "common sense" if you don't consider trans' people's gender identities to be valid, and are happy to see more medical neglect and avoidable fatalities because trans people cant get healthcare.

I always respect gender identity and use the desired pronouns of the individual.

However gender identity and biological sex are two different things.

Biological women have rights and I'm glad to see common sense prevail in excluding biological men (however they identify) from female only spaces.

this is the only sensible reply grounded in any sense of reality from any commenter in this thread excluding myself. I actually agree with this. When the UK anti trans moral panic is finally behind us, people will finally understand how normalised gender neutral loos are worldwide.

Woah this entire comment is a trainwreck.

Considering how trans women frequently get "V-coded" (aka SA'd and r***d by men) when forced into mens spaces, their fear is very rational. You can't convince anyone to be ok with getting SA' and r***d, regardless of gender identity.

Anyway, the fact you cannot understand this alone cements my belief you've been radicalised into the gender critical camp, and nothing I say will change your mind. You clearly have no idea.

I totally agree Stellar, I think WhatThe is so busy making her point that she's completely missing the bigger picture.

Being born male doesn't automatically make someone a threat to women, just as being born female doesn't automatically make someone harmless. Forcing trans women into men's facilities doesn't magically make everyone safer and pretending that the potential risks to trans women don't exist doesn't make those risks disappear. What's particularly telling is the apparent assumption that women's concerns automatically trump everyone else's, as though trans women's safety, dignity and privacy somehow matter less. You can raise legitimate questions about privacy without treating an entire group of people as a problem that needs to be kept away from everyone else. Calling something common sense doesn't make the argument any less flawed.

There was sadly a piece about a missing person in my local newspaper this week, identifies as a woman. In the photo, it was a person with long blond hair one side, wearing a skirt & jumper, they may identify as a women, but clearly, did not look like one. The comments that would go up if they walked into a busy ladies would not make them feel very comfortable, as uncomfortable as those women in there. So, like disabled that have to look around for a disabled loo, maybe go to a toilet where gender doesn't matter, as there are general toilets around.

With comments like "Aso your mum is not going to give a **** if a trans woman is using the toilet next to her, because 1) she has a broken hip and 2) most brits don't care about where trans people go to the loo."

1) Being so sharp, mind you don't cut yourself!

2) Pushing it with most!

As to Samantha who is missing, I hope they're found soon, nothing today.

Very ture. Unfortunately, the ongoing anti-trans moral panic, pushed by the Establishment, means that the few genuine issues people may are getting lost in a sea of transphobia, fascism and bigotry. No naunce, just harm. Literally a repeat of section 28 in the 1980s towards the gay community.

Facebook is known for being a cesspool of trolls and bots. If you seriously believe all the comments you're seeing is from real people, than you've been manipulated.

Likewise how the same detransitioners, who have also been radicalised into the gender critical camp, keep getting platformed by the same transphobic media. They are not representative of detransitioners as a whole.