Fit to work note issues and benefits

Multitaskeralways · April 2018

Hi please can you advise. I am 64 years old due to retire in November. I have been on universal credit for a year but I have had regular sick notes from my go. I have bulging discs diagnosed sciatica diagnosed. IBS diagnosed. Depression stress and anxiety diagnosed. Shortness of breath when walking etc.I have just been awarded pip and a full time carer my ex partner. I went for my work capability and I scored 0 points. I have asked for a Mandatory Reconsideration as the majority of the information is either untrue or incorrect. No approach was made to my gp for medical records to confirm my diagonisis. The assessment quite frankly is full of holes. I will appeal if I lose the mandatory reconsideration as i have bren treated disgracefully. My question to you is whete do I stand i have a cutrent not fit to work medical certificate up until 30th June but iam now told that its irrelevant as i have failed my work capability. I am not well hence why i have a sick note i disagree with their findings and i can back this up with medical evidence.does this mean they can force me back to work against doctors orders? I am really not well enough anyway please advise.

Multitaskeralways · April 2018

I have a fit note covering the entire period and I am signed off sick till 30th June.and this fit note has been accepted by Universal Credit and I have that in writing. My question is because I have been turned down for Esa even though a the majority of the information is incorrect hence why i have asked for a Mandatory reconsideration. In the meantime whilst I m appealing this does my current medical certificate covering the next 3 months because of my condition mean that is is not valid therefore I must look for work.alot of the information on the assessment was totally incorrect. Does that mean an assessor who is not a doctor can overrde a doctors decision that you cannot work.

Multitaskeralways · April 2018

Hi Mike I am already on Universal Credit and have been for a year.i have been 3 montly fit notes for the entire period and going forward for another 3 months. Because I am really not well and in constant pain and breathless hence the medical certificate. Are you saying I have to now look for work in the normal way that you would if you had no health problems even though this would have a huge impact on me and my health. What is the point of having a fit note they accept it and ignore it.

Multitaskeralways · April 2018

So your saying a doctor has lost all power they cannot make a decision about your health only a recommendation which in turn Dwp ignore.

poppy123456 · April 2018

Multitaskeralways said:

So your saying a doctor has lost all power they cannot make a decision about your health only a recommendation which in turn Dwp ignore.

What a GP thinks about someones fitness to work is totally irrelevant to what the DWP think here. They can over rule what a GP thinks. Mostly a GP will only put down on paper what you ask him to. Evidence will been needed to prove your claim, they very rarely contact anyone for any evidence. I'm not familiar with the procedure for UC when you've been found fit for work, like i am with ESA. I'd advice you to visit your local CAB for further advise but the fit notes will not help you at this stage.

[Deleted User] · April 2018

Hi Multitaskeralways

Just want to express how sorry I am to hear that your GP's opinion has not been accepted, as far as your benefit claim is concerned.

I appreciate that many people feel that their GP knows them well and understands their medical condition, so that if their GP says they are unfit for work, then that should be accepted by the DWP. Unfortunately that isn't how our system currently works.

For many years now, the DWP has arranged assessments with private companies that employ "Healthcare Professionals" who meet the claimant for half an hour and then write a report. On the basis of that report, the DWP decision maker makes a decision about whether or not benefit is payable.

Scope makes regular statements that these and Personal Independence Payment assessments are not fit for purpose, however it is taking a great deal of time for the government to make the necessary improvements.

https://www.scope.org.uk/About-Us/Media/Press-releases/March-2017/PIP-statistics-reveal-an-assessment-process-that-i

https://www.scope.org.uk/press-releases/response-pip-second-review

https://www.scope.org.uk/press-releases/pip-fix-fundamentally-broken-assessment-process

https://www.scope.org.uk/press-releases/pip-esa-assessments-riddled-with-errors

https://blog.scope.org.uk/2012/07/30/scope-ceo-blog-watching-the-dispatches-undercover-footage/

Meanwhile, individuals who are affected by these decisions of the DWP have the difficult task of challenging them, where they feel that they are inappropriate - by researching the descriptor points and in the case of ESA, the exceptional conditions (Regulation 29) for being accepted as not well enough or too disabled to look for work.

Don't give up if you believe that a mistake has been made, in that a very high proportion of individuals eventually win, very often at appeal hearing stage. Good luck with challenging the decision that's been made and do get in touch maybe with the helpline, if there is only limited advice available locally, or if you would like to discuss further.

Best wishes

Gill_Scope
Finance and Benefits Specialist
Scope Helpline
Tel: 0808 800 3333

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