In concluding a PIP face to face assessment.......

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Yadnad
Yadnad Posts: 2,886 Championing
edited November 2022 in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
I've had a look at the assessors guide for PIP as directed by Mike [removed by moderator] and to be honest it is an eye opener of the first degree

First of all I was looking at this section:

Concluding the face-to-face consultation  
Prior to concluding face-to-face consultations, HPs should give claimants an overview of the findings they have taken from the consultation, including an indication of the fluctuation and variability of function they have recorded. Claimants should be invited to clarify any points and ask any questions they have about the assessment procedure, and ask whether there is anything else they would like to include. The HP should always attempt to respond to any issues or concerns they express. 


I wonder if this is ever offered? I certainly was never asked in the three assessments that I had.

How do you enforce this?

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 68 Listener
    I can't believe that I believe that has happened to no one 
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,886 Championing
    edited June 2018
    jim1074 said:
    I can't believe that I believe that has happened to no one 
    My assessments concluded with - 'the report will now be sent to the DWP who will make a decision'.
    Never had the offer to go through what the assessor had written and concluded and was never offer the opportunity of commenting on the report by asking the assessor questions.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 68 Listener
    That's right as soon as they got what they wanted they said bye 
  • Government_needs_reform
    Government_needs_reform Online Community Member Posts: 884 Trailblazing
    @Yadnad wrote "How do you enforce this?"

    One simple answer YOU CAN'T.

    They write the rules and bend them to and break them to suite.

  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,886 Championing
    @Yadnad wrote "How do you enforce this?"

    One simple answer YOU CAN'T.

    They write the rules and bend them to and break them to suite.

    I really do feel for those who need/want a PIP award. So glad I'm out of the loop although the financial side took a massive dip which has caused problems. But you can't have one without the other.
  • shaybo
    shaybo Online Community Member Posts: 12 Contributor
    My assesor asked if i wanted to add anything. and if there was any questions i wanted answered. she also said she would be asking for a reveiw in 3 to 5 years as she could not see my condition much improving between that time my f2f was just a couple of days ago so wont hear anything for a while im sure 
  • Government_needs_reform
    Government_needs_reform Online Community Member Posts: 884 Trailblazing
    Very true @yadnad it's a hard battle to get anything these days from them. I must admit I was lucky in my change over from DLA to PIP no Face to Face ongoing I believe it's about adding the best factual upto date evidence and wording it right.

    Hopefully I will get a little peace for now.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 68 Listener
    You will hear in2 month
  • Gaina
    Gaina Online Community Member Posts: 138 Empowering
    Mine didn't tell me what she'd written but she did explain where it would go, how long a decision should take and asked me if I could think of anything else I'd like to add (I couldn't). 
  • wilko
    wilko Online Community Member Posts: 2,438 Championing
    We, you have to be proactive in filling in our PIP forms supplying evidence and ensuring it is of a standard to support your claim. Most don't get asked is there anything else to add either the evidence you we supply is more than enough or by our visual appearance and actual accessment there is or was not any need for further information to be given. But now we know how many of us will say at the end of our accessment, by the way could I just say or had this comment to this or that.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Online Community Member Posts: 2,890 Championing
    I asked mine to read it back to me after each part and they said we will do it at the end. I asked again at the end and they didn’t read the whole thing back but carried on by telling me what happens next. 
  • Lucysam25
    Lucysam25 Online Community Member Posts: 35 Connected
    They turned me down on the mandatory form when I have read the form it's the same wording  as the original  letter I got and the same points so now I am going to go for tribunal  in court's i am curious about what the  judge would say please help
  • Waylay
    Waylay Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 965 Trailblazing
    You could probably.pointbout that this wasn't done when writing a submission for tribunal appeal.
  • Waylay
    Waylay Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 965 Trailblazing
    Point out, sorry. Have a kitten biting my neck.
  • shaybo
    shaybo Online Community Member Posts: 12 Contributor
    Just an update got the dreded brown letter today  so happy stress all lifted got enchanced on both now i can relax