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Tongey
Tongey Community member Posts: 5 Listener
edited November 2018 in PIP, DLA, and AA
I have now been subjected to 2 abhorrent PIP Assessments. I have actual proof of the alterations to facts, wrongly placed measurements and actual lies made by the Assessors in connection with my fitness, physique and health. This has happened on both occasions and the DWP is more than happy to allow their Agents to do it this way. They even allow their agents to ignore their own guidelines on Assessment criteria, Can I take the DWP to court on this as they are making what is left of my life a living hell? Any help will be gratefully received.

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  • steve51
    steve51 Community member Posts: 7,153 Disability Gamechanger
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    Hi @Tongey

    Good Evening it’s great to meet you today.

    I’m very very sorry to hear about your current problems.

    Hi @BenefitsTrainingCo

    Sorry but can you please offer some help/advice on this post???

    Many Thanks.  

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    Richard_Scope Posts: 3,648 Scope online community team
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  • BenefitsTrainingCo
    BenefitsTrainingCo Community member Posts: 2,621 Pioneering
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    Hi @Tongey I would suggest you request a reconsideration of the decision with the DWP within 1 month of the decision being made - assuming the poor assessment has resulted in a negative decision on your claim.  Separately I would make a formal complaint to the assessment provider, you can contact them or look at their website for information on their complaints policy.  Additionally you may wish to contact your local MP (if you are not sure who it is, you can check via postcode here: https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/mps/) and discuss your concerns.  Often a letter from an MP will give more weight to a complaint.  Do not miss out challenging the DWP decision however, a complaint to the assessment provider will not resolve any issue with your benefit decision.
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  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
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    You can issue proceedings against anybody - whether you will win or end with a bill for the DWP's costs is another matter.

  • Tongey
    Tongey Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Thanks for this, perhaps it would help if I explained in more detail here.
    My first Assessment was in 2016. The Assessor Reported that I did things that I could never achieve and a lot more.
    The second, earlier this year the same thing has happened. Just one example should show how crass and ineffective this whole system is.
    After a major RTA in 1985 my legs are a mess. I had to have tendons and a lot of muscle bulk removed due to the damage.
    According to the Assessor (HEALTH PROFESSIONAL?) my calf muscle bulk is normal? Below 35cm is a distinct sign of poor health and both of mine are 32cm or less,
    Even though all the lies have been advised to the DWP they still insist on fully supporting the joke of an operation that they have doing this.
    Are the DWP able to rely upon proven lies, altered and made up facts, surely this makes them an accessory to this fiasco?
    From the MR, where the issues were raised, on both occasions, I got a dismissal and had to go to Tribunal. Throughout the DWP has given full support to proven fictional Assessments. I won my case at this Tribunal but it took its toll of me. Now I am in a much worse state and awaiting a date for the 2nd Tribunal.
    I suffer a lot of issues that on their own make for a problematical existence, together they are murder.
    I am Type 1 Diabetic, since 1960. I suffer from Severe Arthritis, cramps in my legs and little sensitivity and inability to use my left foot fully (caused by it being re-attached following an RTA in 1985, not on a motorcycle!). I have a short-term memory issue, caused by the excruciating pain medication, diabetes and medication for my Depression.
    One of my issues is my treatment for Anxiety and Depression. This crass, insensitive and evil treatment is killing me, my medication had to be changed because of the first Assessment, it has had to be increased and may possibly have to change due to this one. Any medically trained individual will realise how bad this is, making me intolerant to medication that has been working; cannot be right.
    Why are the DWP allowed to be an accessory to this criminal activity and get away with it?
    My issue is; that this is taking over my life. I find concentration is difficult when I get a thought about this travesty. All of my ailments are being adversely affected by this. My work is badly suffering; I am self employed and this is being so awfully affected. I just do not know how long I can take anymore of this and desperately am seeking help to make it stop.
  • Tongey
    Tongey Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Mike, thank you so much for this. It is really great to hear detail explained by a professional.
    Not sure what you mean by on-going award. For my first Tribunal it was for 18months, and I was advised that was normal. Am I able to argue for a longer term. Bearing in mind I will be 65 in 2.5 years this could make all the difference if I am right to assume they cannot do this to me following that age?
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
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    Tongey said:
    Mike, thank you so much for this. It is really great to hear detail explained by a professional.
    Not sure what you mean by on-going award. For my first Tribunal it was for 18months, and I was advised that was normal. Am I able to argue for a longer term. Bearing in mind I will be 65 in 2.5 years this could make all the difference if I am right to assume they cannot do this to me following that age?
    The DWP can do what they like to a claimant of any age!

    I was 65 in 2013 and had my first PIP assessment (was on DLA before that - High Care & Mobility indefinitely - but that is not considered for PIP).
    It came back with 0 points - MR upped it to Enhanced Care & Mobility for 3 years. 2 years later in 2015 came another assessment and the same thing happened at MR.
    In 2017 I had my third assessment (was 69 at the time) and once again I was given 0 points.

    I gave up after that.
  • Tongey
    Tongey Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Yadnad, you are lucky just having to go to MR to get what you need. At both my assessments they have unmercifully lied about my detail, changed and altered detail at their will and exaggerated to suit their own events.
    This just has to be wrong, I am being treated like a criminal by those committing criminal actions? 
    And there is no end game for this, I must see how to get my case driven for an ongoing award.
    Thanks
  • Tongey
    Tongey Community member Posts: 5 Listener
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    Mike
    Thanks, you have been a real help I wish I had known about this site sooner.

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