PIP MOBILITY TRIBUNRAL
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g7iqj
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HAD my PIP tribunral yesterday @ bristol . age 55 had accident @ work over 20 yrs ago left me permintient disabilty damage to lwr back spine degenervative . . treatable, not curable awarded 10 % spine issue industrial injurys for life . Orthopedic surgeons report back 1999 stating how accident damaged left my back spine . over years had treatnment to keep me mobile take iburofeon as required 500mg , turmeric psyomassage , reguar jaquzzis, steam baths . HOWEVER last 2, 3 years as dengenrative nature injury , i now find standing upright in ques for more 1-5 min very pain full have to sit down also so i stand start wailking the pain goes 2 out 10 up to about 7-8 out 10 if i try walk more than 20 meteres bottom garden back if i push it to 50 meteres 9-out 10 pain scale . SO i applied for PIP MOBILITY dec 2018 jan/ refued by DWP jan 2019 , march 2019 applied got approved by tribural tribunral 24 oct 2019 . i got turned down up held DWP DESTION . Reason my eveidence ortopedic surgeons report 20 yrs old not current , although as judge, chairman said yes i have back problem not issue . However the report as my back as degenerated to point my mobilty walking is limited in 1 go to stoping ever 20-50 meteres MAX , standing up right 1- 5 min with out sitting due excess pain this was not mentioned in the report to back my claim up only that the condition is degenrative not pacfic. SO it looks like i have to go back to my GP ref to / see spechialist / orhopedic surgeon get up to date report to say that @ 55 now ive degenerated to stage were i have limited walking mobilty to approx 20 meteres in one go with out sitting also standing for more than max off 5 min . START PIP allover again the man from DWP sat there with big smerk on his face
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Hi @g7iqj, I am really sorry to hear this! I imagine you are very frustrated!
You may be able to apply for an upper tribunal, here is some information about that.
You will need to request a copy of the statement of reasons. If there is anything else we can do, then please do let us know!Scope -
Hello, this is prove that we, you, and I must have and submit up to date diagnosis, treatment or physio reports to support our PIP application. Those of us due a renewal or a review should be thinking about getting collecting and updating our records regarding information needed or required for an assessment.
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HI,I'm sorry to hear this. I would urge you to get some face to face advice because to constantly re-apply using the same evidence and presenting you case in the same way will very likely see you being constantly refused.May i ask if there's any reasons why you haven't mentioned the daily living part? PIP has 2 parts and you can't just apply for one part. Have you looked at all the PIP descriptors to see where you could score points in the daily living part?Having some understanding of the PIP descriptors and what they mean will definitely help you. Have a read of this link and it will help you https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
wilko said:Hello, this is prove that we, you, and I must have and submit up to date diagnosis, treatment or physio reports to support our PIP application. Those of us due a renewal or a review should be thinking about getting collecting and updating our records regarding information needed or required for an assessment.
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Have start all over again CURRENT UP TO DATE REPORT will back up 2000 report that my condition is ongoing for life @ degenrative .
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Username_removed said:You absolutely do not have to start all over again and as has already been stated there are credibility issues if you do so. Your next step is to request the record of proceedings and a statement of reasons and then get face to face on whether an error of law can be identified to allow you to get this to upper tribunal. It’s usually not hard but will need face to face advice. Most tribunal decisions contain an error of law. It’s almost impossible to do otherwise. In the meantime, to dot the i’s and cross the t’s go and get yourself a new report.
It’s hard to say having not being in the room but my experience tells me that what the tribunal were saying was less about the report you presented and more about the lack of up to date anecdotal evidence to support it. They’re saying that they can’t reconcile your description of your mobility now with the old report you presented. The problem is less the old report and more the extent to which things have degenerated and whether that’s credible in light of one medical report apparently being your only medical evidence.
hELLO MIKE you correct what judge said , was not problem i got disabilty . However ALTHOUGH the report says life time condition / degenrative . NO current evedeince ie circa 2018/2019 to confirm what i was claiming / to back report up . so she upheld DWP DESTION. basically back to my gp get refural to orthopedic surgeon , poss more xrays / mrsi get report to my condition as off now 2019 is current on going upto date effects its not i cant walk stand but i have walking radius up to 20 meteres range stop rest back do max another 20 meteres also standing in ques in shops limited to 2-5 minuites b4 i have sit down . . i would say i degenrated to this stage last 2, 3 years . iam still waiting for full court report they only gave me 1 piece paper on day say my appeal unsussessfull . what every happens i will be applying again.
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iam ok thanck you .
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