I am 30 and never had a job, I really would like part time but scared it might affect my ESA/PIP ?

Bpositive91
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Hi everyone.
I am 30 years old and never had a job. I am diagnosed with Dyspraxia and also I have severe anxiety most of the time.
I have not been to a doctor to to be diagnosed with the anxiety and I do not talk about it to anyone.
I receive ESA and PIP , I get extra ESA also due to being on PIP.
I am very grateful for the allowances I receive ( ESA & PIP) and the amount I get covers my expenses , my needs are met graciously.
However I have a huge sadness , that I have never had a job and feel that I am so far behind in life.
I often lay awake late at night thinking about my life and although it seems to me it would be a huge mental struggle to get even a part time job but I could try and still turn my life around perhaps.
When I was 20 I worried about reaching 30 and still at this predicament and now I am 30 I worry about being 40 and it being the same.
I would really love to give it a try and see how I do and also give something back to society but worry if I get a part time job it might affect my ESA/PIP ?
I live with my mum who is also not working at the moment due to her own health complaints , she get's very worried when I mention a part time job because we finally have things sorted out and she is worried my ESA/PIP may be interfered with if I get a part time job and if so how we will cope if that happens and also I am also unable to continue with the part time job because of my anxiety .
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks everyone
I am 30 years old and never had a job. I am diagnosed with Dyspraxia and also I have severe anxiety most of the time.
I have not been to a doctor to to be diagnosed with the anxiety and I do not talk about it to anyone.
I receive ESA and PIP , I get extra ESA also due to being on PIP.
I am very grateful for the allowances I receive ( ESA & PIP) and the amount I get covers my expenses , my needs are met graciously.
However I have a huge sadness , that I have never had a job and feel that I am so far behind in life.
I often lay awake late at night thinking about my life and although it seems to me it would be a huge mental struggle to get even a part time job but I could try and still turn my life around perhaps.
When I was 20 I worried about reaching 30 and still at this predicament and now I am 30 I worry about being 40 and it being the same.
I would really love to give it a try and see how I do and also give something back to society but worry if I get a part time job it might affect my ESA/PIP ?
I live with my mum who is also not working at the moment due to her own health complaints , she get's very worried when I mention a part time job because we finally have things sorted out and she is worried my ESA/PIP may be interfered with if I get a part time job and if so how we will cope if that happens and also I am also unable to continue with the part time job because of my anxiety .
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks everyone
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You can do permitted work while claiming ESA but you must make sure you would less than 16 hours/week and earn no more than £143/week. (after deductions) You must tell DWP that you're working and you'll need to fill out a PW1 form. See link. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-permitted-work-form/permitted-work-factsheetWhen claiming both ESA and PIP, if the work you do contradicts the reasons why you're claiming these you could be re-assessed early and the decision could go against you once it's made.
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The other thing you can look at is doing some voluntary activity. You would still need to inform ESA and it would need to be less than 16 hours/week but it could be a way of 'being useful' while gaining some experience and might be more flexible than a paid job.3
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I have done voluntary jobs.
Both were a good life experience.
Getting into paid work, I would love but with my struggles in my physical/mental problems, I am better off on benefits.
** I hasten to add, I am not better off, far from, on State Benefits **1 -
Hi @Bpositive91
Thanks for posting in detail about this and how you feel, at one point in the past I felt similar to how you describe and found that volunteering was a brilliant avenue to help with that. Have you considered doing any volunteer work? It would allow you to gain some experience and help to determine what sort of job you would enjoy doing, without the pressure that paid employment can bring.
Furthermore, Scope has a number of employment services, which you can read about here, that may be helpful for you in preparing for paid employment.1 -
Hi everyone. Thank you all for each of your messages, I have read all of them and taken the advice on board.
Regarding voluntary work , I am anxious and worried to even do that as I'd have to inform the DWP and concerned it may interfere with my Allowances of ESA/PIP .
Does voluntary work present the same risk to my ESA /PIP as paid work could ?
Also I have considered going back to college or University but again, do I need to inform the DWP about this ?
Many thanks to all in advance
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Thanks for that info Mike. I understand as Poppy says if someone begins a part time job and it contradicts what they claim ESA for then it would likely affect benefits.
If someone for example claims ESA for severe anxiety and say they can't leave the house alone and then they go ahead and get a part time job in a supermarket I assume that is an example how someone might lose or see a reduction on their benefit ? I am not referring to me but using it as an example scenario .
Lastly regarding your last statement of the working within 16 hours and nothing to worry about it interfering with benefits, I worry the DWP may see it as if I can work a few hours then I can work unlimited and could interfere with my ESA/PIP ?
I do get nervous in unfamiliar places and can become vulnerable in those circumstances and I do need motivation some days to get out of bed and do things and also to be encouraged to eat because most days I will literally go an entire day without eating or eating the first thing of the day at near midnight.
these are some of the reason why I on my ESA/PIP . Do you think a part time job would affect anything and not sure if I got a part time job for example at a supermarket might they look to reevaluate my ESA ?
Also When I clicked the link that Poppy provided to read about permitted work, from what I gather one has to be aided by a support worker in the work place, have I got this correct or not ?
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Bpositive91 said:..working within 16 hours and nothing to worry about it interfering with benefits, I worry the DWP may see it as if I can work a few hours then I can work unlimited and could interfere with my ESA/PIP ?Bpositive91 said:Also When I clicked the link that Poppy provided to read about permitted work, from what I gather one has to be aided by a support worker in the work place, have I got this correct or not ?0
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calcotti said:Bpositive91 said:..working within 16 hours and nothing to worry about it interfering with benefits, I worry the DWP may see it as if I can work a few hours then I can work unlimited and could interfere with my ESA/PIP ?Bpositive91 said:Also When I clicked the link that Poppy provided to read about permitted work, from what I gather one has to be aided by a support worker in the work place, have I got this correct or not ?
Hi Calcotti.
thank you for your replies and I apologize for the delay in my response.
I will definitely look into part time work once I feel mentally and physically improved enough. Also thanks for clarifying on my confusion about if one was required to be supported by a supervisor while at the work place.
I have another question.
I just wondered something while looking at a letter about my ESA , my mum is my appointee so the letter is addressed to my mum but says for me which it is and the top of the letter has my own national insurance number on it as it should. ( say's '' your reference number'' and then my NI number next to it )
on the letter is says we will credit you with national insurance contributions while claiming ESA . My question is will the national insurance contributions from my ESA still go to me even though my ESA is being paid into my Mum's bank account ?
I assume the national insurance contributions still go to my account as it has my national insurance number on it and it is still my ESA claim despite it being paid to my mum's account ?
Many thanks
I get my Pip paid into my own bank account but my ESA gets paid into my mum's bank as it has for years because I found it easier her managing my expenses .
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The NI credits will be for you not your mum. It is your claim but, as your appointee, your mum acts in your place in respect of administering the claim and she is responsible for keeping DWP informed about any changes.0
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calcotti said:The NI credits will be for you not your mum. It is your claim but, as your appointee, your mum acts in your place in respect of administering the claim and she is responsible for keeping DWP informed about any changes.
Thank you for that information.
It was not just the fact she is my appointee but also that she get's my ESA paid into her bank account so I was suddenly worried the NI credits may not go on my account.
So although I do not get my ESA paid into my own account ( rather it get's paid into my mum's account ) I will still receive the NI credits from it ?
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Bpositive91 said: So although I do not get my ESA paid into my own account ( rather it get's paid into my mum's account ) I will still receive the NI credits from it ?1
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calcotti said:Bpositive91 said: So although I do not get my ESA paid into my own account ( rather it get's paid into my mum's account ) I will still receive the NI credits from it ?0
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One more thing guys. If I wanted to go to college could this affect my ESA/PIP ?
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Full time students can continue to claim ESA and PIP. If there's a student maintenance loan available to you, this will affect any Income Related benefits you receive, even if you decide not to take to that loan.PIP won't be affected by any student loan.You must tell DWP/ESA that you'll be studying. If being a student contradicts the reasons why you're claiming both benefits then this may go against you when you're next reassessed.0
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Thanks very much for that advice Poppy, all your advice has been read and noted .
I apologise for not responding sooner .
I am still considering part time work, but does anyone know if my ESA will be reduced because I claim income related ESA , not contribution ESA ?
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Bpositive91 said: I am still considering part time work, but does anyone know if my ESA will be reduced because I claim income related ESA , not contribution ESA ?
As it says in the link poppy previously provided
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-permitted-work-form/permitted-work-factsheetPermitted work lets you:I find you go outside the limits you lose ESA completely.- work for less than 16 hours each week
- earn up to £143 every week after tax
- receive your normal amount of benefit
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calcotti said:Bpositive91 said: I am still considering part time work, but does anyone know if my ESA will be reduced because I claim income related ESA , not contribution ESA ?
As it says in the link poppy previously provided
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/employment-and-support-allowance-permitted-work-form/permitted-work-factsheetPermitted work lets you:I find you go outside the limits you lose ESA completely.- work for less than 16 hours each week
- earn up to £143 every week after tax
- receive your normal amount of benefit
One other question, I live with my mum she is on universal credit for her own health issues. If I start part time would could this interface with her universal credit amount or will it not affect that as her claim is separate ?
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Bpositive91 said:Thanks for that Information, so basically if I work less than 15 hours and earn no more than £143 my housing benefit won't be affected .
One other question, I live with my mum she is on universal credit for her own health issues. If I start part time would could this interface with her universal credit amount or will it not affect that as her claim is separate ?
Your mum’s UC is not affected by you working.0
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