PIP/ADP

CarolMCW
CarolMCW Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected
in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
Hi.  I'm in Scotland.  I applied for PIP on 27 June and have receieve a date for a phone consultaion on 1 September (which I think is pretty quick)  However, on the 25 July I heard that I could apply for the Scottish equivelant of PIP which is ADP (Adult Disabilty Payment and is exactly the same amounts and scoring system)  So I also applied for that.  I am NOT trying to get two awards, I was told that PIP would take 20 weeks but ADP takes 8 to 10.  What I'm wondering now is, should I cancel the Scottish ADP or wait and see how I get on with PIP first

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited August 2022


    According to this, your application for pip should've been transferred to Social Security Scotland and treated as an application for ADP.

    https://www.mygov.scot/adult-disability-payment/how-to-apply

    If you applied for Personal Independence Payment but should have applied for Adult Disability Payment
    The Department for Work and Pensions will send your application to Social Security Scotland.
    Social Security Scotland will:
    • use it as an application for Adult Disability Payment
    • make a decision about your application
    You'll get your payments from the date you applied for Personal Independence Payment, if your application is successful.
    You do not need to complete a separate Adult Disability Payment application.
    As you live in Scotland you cannot, as I understand it, be awarded PIP as a new claim (although possibly you applied just before the cut off but I can't find a critical date, just June 2022).

    I suggest you ring ADP and explain the situation and see what they say.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited August 2022
    I have now found
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/how-to-claim/
    If you do not already get PIP
    You can apply for Adult Disability Payment on or after these dates:
    21 March - if you live in Dundee City, Perth and Kinross or the Western Isles
    20 June - if you live in Angus, North Lanarkshire or South Lanarkshire
    25 July - if you live in Aberdeen City, Aberdeenshire, East Ayrshire, Fife, Moray, North Ayrshire or South Ayrshire
    29 August - if you live anywhere else in Scotland.
    It says those areas can apply for ADP which suggests that PIP can still be applied for  but it really isn't clear what should be happening.

    Your PIP appears to be processing as a PIP claim so have no idea what will now happen with the ADP application. I would still suggest you ring ADP and explain the situation and see what they say.
  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,538 Championing
    Hello and welcome @CarolMCW thanks for joining the community today, I hope you find it a welcoming and knowledgeable place :) 

    Have the above replies helped with things?

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    Let us know if you need anything further, and we'll do what we can to help.

    Alex
  • CarolMCW
    CarolMCW Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected
    Thanks for the replies and sorry I'm so late in responding. 
    I've had my PIP phone assessment and the lady didn't say anything about the Scottish ADP.  She said at the end that I'd hear from them in 4 to 6 weeks.  I'm just going to wait.  I'll decide what to do when either of them give me a decision.  Apparently the ADP try to assess without a face to face or phone assessment and it's done using NHS health care professionals.
  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,538 Championing
    Hello again @CarolMCW and no need to apologise thanks for the update :) Keep us updated when you do hear more about your PIP. 

    Do you think ADP would be a better experience for you as an applicant?
  • CarolMCW
    CarolMCW Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected
    Thanks Alex, I don't know if ADP will be easier.  The answers to the questions in the ADP form don't have as many options as the PIP eg, answer was in 2 options in some questions, either 1.Yes or sometimes or 2. No and then it says you can comment further if you answered NO.  I thought this was unfair as it didn't want you to comment if you were affected "sometimes".   But I did answer and explained that sometimes was often and how it affected me.
    But regarding my PIP phone assessment I had on Thursday, I felt I should've said more but hey ho, it is what it is now.  The next day I got a text to say that the DWP had received the written report from the assessor.  She wasn't long in sending it.  I looked on line and read that you could only get a copy once you'd been given the final decision.  But I phoned them and the lady said she'd put it in the post for me today!  Wow
    I also taped it (went through the proper channels but the assessor said she didn't know I was taping it so she called me back after finding it on the notes.  I've transcripted it)  So it'll be interesting.
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,922 Championing
    @CarolMCW How have things been for you more recently? I appreciate it has been a little while since you last posted on this thread now.

    I want to make sure you have access to the support you need and deserve but I am also aware that things might have changed since.

    Please don't hesitate to let us know if we can do anything to help. We are all here for you  :)
  • Sud
    Sud Online Community Member Posts: 30 Contributor
    I put change circumstances to pip dec 2022 was moved over to adp in April 2023 and I am still waiting for decision has anyone else waited this long ? 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Sud said:
    I put change circumstances to pip dec 2022 was moved over to adp in April 2023 and I am still waiting for decision has anyone else waited this long ? 

    There's long delays for decisions for some people for change of circumstances and reviews. Some are waiting as long as 1 year for a decision.
  • Sud
    Sud Online Community Member Posts: 30 Contributor
    Thanks poppy no better than pip then I should have just put in a new claim as hubby just waited for 4 month with new claim 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Sud said:
    Thanks poppy no better than pip then I should have just put in a new claim as hubby just waited for 4 month with new claim 

    You can't start a new claim when you already have an award in place.

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