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  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    If SDP was included in the pension credit calculation it should say this on the letter. As i advised based on living with you and your brother she's not entitled to SDP anyway.
    I just looked at the DWP site it says pension credit is £182.60 a week for a single person.
    That is not correct. It says pension credit will top up your weekly income (single person) to a maximum of £182.60/week. Unless there's entitlement to either carers premium or SDP and then your weekly income increases.
    How much is your mum's state pension per week?
    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Severe-Disability-Premium/Can-I-get-a-Severe-Disability-Premium#:~:text=To get a Severe Disability,related Employment and Support Allowance

    According to this if u do have other adults in Ur home that are not Ur partners the person can still be entitled to SDP.
     
    "If you live with another adult who is not your partner, you might still be entitled to a Severe Disability Premium. This can be complicated and you should use our tool to find an adviser"
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    edited October 2022
    Your mum is not entitled to SDP because you and your brother live with her. SDP is £****.70 per week and is paid in with pension credit. If her state pension is £185.15/week then there shouldn't be any entitlement to pension credit, unless she has an underlying entitlement to carers allowance.
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    If SDP was included in the pension credit calculation it should say this on the letter. As i advised based on living with you and your brother she's not entitled to SDP anyway.
    I just looked at the DWP site it says pension credit is £182.60 a week for a single person.
    That is not correct. It says pension credit will top up your weekly income (single person) to a maximum of £182.60/week. Unless there's entitlement to either carers premium or SDP and then your weekly income increases.
    How much is your mum's state pension per week?
    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Severe-Disability-Premium/Can-I-get-a-Severe-Disability-Premium#:~:text=To get a Severe Disability,related Employment and Support Allowance

    According to this if u do have other adults in Ur home that are not Ur partners the person can still be entitled to SDP.
     
    "If you live with another adult who is not your partner, you might still be entitled to a Severe Disability Premium. This can be complicated and you should use our tool to find an adviser"

    Indeed but this doesn't apply to your mum because her sons live with her. (you and your brother) as i advised, she would only be entitled to SDP if you or your brother are either claiming a qualifying disability benefit or you're registered blind.
    For example, i live with my daughter who's 21. I claim ESA and in with my ESA is the SDP. I'm entitled to SDP because my daughter also claims daily living PIP. If she wasn't then i wouldn't be entitled to SDP.
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    Your mum is not entitled to SDP because you and your brother live with her. SDP is £****.70 per week and is paid in with pension credit. If her state pension is £185.15/week then there shouldn't be any entitlement to pension credit, unless she has an underlying entitlement to carers allowance.
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    If SDP was included in the pension credit calculation it should say this on the letter. As i advised based on living with you and your brother she's not entitled to SDP anyway.
    I just looked at the DWP site it says pension credit is £182.60 a week for a single person.
    That is not correct. It says pension credit will top up your weekly income (single person) to a maximum of £182.60/week. Unless there's entitlement to either carers premium or SDP and then your weekly income increases.
    How much is your mum's state pension per week?
    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Severe-Disability-Premium/Can-I-get-a-Severe-Disability-Premium#:~:text=To get a Severe Disability,related Employment and Support Allowance

    According to this if u do have other adults in Ur home that are not Ur partners the person can still be entitled to SDP.
     
    "If you live with another adult who is not your partner, you might still be entitled to a Severe Disability Premium. This can be complicated and you should use our tool to find an adviser"

    Indeed but this doesn't apply to your mum because her sons live with her. (you and your brother) as i advised, she would only be entitled to SDP if you or your brother are either claiming a qualifying disability benefit or you're registered blind.
    For example, i live with my daughter who's 21. I claim ESA and in with my ESA is the SDP. I'm entitled to SDP because my daughter also claims daily living PIP. If she wasn't then i wouldn't be entitled to SDP.
    As I mentioned it doesn't say SDP just says pension credit and guaranteed credit, so my question is is guaranteed credit same as SDP?
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    Thank u so much poppy for Ur help
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    No, SDP is not the same as guaranteed credit. SDP is paid in with other benefits such as ESA and pension credit.
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    Your mum is not entitled to SDP because you and your brother live with her. SDP is £****.70 per week and is paid in with pension credit. If her state pension is £185.15/week then there shouldn't be any entitlement to pension credit, unless she has an underlying entitlement to carers allowance.
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    TheOne1 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    If SDP was included in the pension credit calculation it should say this on the letter. As i advised based on living with you and your brother she's not entitled to SDP anyway.
    I just looked at the DWP site it says pension credit is £182.60 a week for a single person.
    That is not correct. It says pension credit will top up your weekly income (single person) to a maximum of £182.60/week. Unless there's entitlement to either carers premium or SDP and then your weekly income increases.
    How much is your mum's state pension per week?
    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Severe-Disability-Premium/Can-I-get-a-Severe-Disability-Premium#:~:text=To get a Severe Disability,related Employment and Support Allowance

    According to this if u do have other adults in Ur home that are not Ur partners the person can still be entitled to SDP.
     
    "If you live with another adult who is not your partner, you might still be entitled to a Severe Disability Premium. This can be complicated and you should use our tool to find an adviser"

    Indeed but this doesn't apply to your mum because her sons live with her. (you and your brother) as i advised, she would only be entitled to SDP if you or your brother are either claiming a qualifying disability benefit or you're registered blind.
    For example, i live with my daughter who's 21. I claim ESA and in with my ESA is the SDP. I'm entitled to SDP because my daughter also claims daily living PIP. If she wasn't then i wouldn't be entitled to SDP.
    I have one final question, if my brother gets pip along with his ESA he will then be entitled to SDP? Is this correct? If some when I become his carer will his SDP stop? Also if this stops will he then just get the enhanced Disability premium as he is currently getting with his ESA? Or will his ESA outright stop because his SDP has stopped? Thank u
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    No, SDP is not the same as guaranteed credit. SDP is paid in with other benefits such as ESA and pension credit.
    This is strange indeed, I don't understand why two DWP stated that my mum is getting SDP when it fact it just says pension credit and gurunteed credit and the amount that she is getting. There is no mention of SDP. Thank u once again
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    No, he will not be entitled to SDP because you live with him and you don't claim a qualifying disability benefit and you're not registered blind.
    As i advised quite a few times, if you claim carers allowance for looking after him then this will not affect his ESA.
    A PIP claim has nothing to do with your brothers Enhanced diability premium, that's paid because he's in the Support Group claiming Income Related.
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    No, he will not be entitled to SDP because you live with him and you don't claim a qualifying disability benefit and you're not registered blind.
    As i advised quite a few times, if you claim carers allowance for looking after him then this will not affect his ESA.
    A PIP claim has nothing to do with your brothers Enhanced diability premium, that's paid because he's in the Support Group claiming Income Related.
    Thank u so much for the advice i appreciate all that u doing.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    No problem.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,000 Championing
    edited October 2022
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP, if applicable, is part of the guarantee Pension Credit calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears unlikely to meet the qualifying conditions. 

    Are you and they all renting the property you live in?

  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    I did call DWP and they stated the qualifying benefit for SDP for the pensioner is if another person in the same house is on ESA, it doesn't need to be pip or DLA, or certain disability benefits, Even this site says:
    People who claim Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payment or Attendance Allowance can qualify for an extra allowance when some benefits are calculated, this is called a 'severe disability premium'. The benefits that can include the 'severe disability premium' are Income Support, Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), Housing Benefit and Pension Credit"

    it can be ESA if the other adult is claiming in the same house hold not just PIP OR DLA. So if this is SDP my mum is getting and I claim carers for my brother will my mum's SDP/Pension Credit be affected. Does Ur pervious answer still stand in light of this information. Thank u and does the same still apply regarding my brothers ESA will that be affected or stoped if my mum is getting SDP and j became a carer for my brother or does Ur pervious answer still apply.

    Thank u
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP, if applicable, is part of the guarantee Pension Credit calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears unlikely to meet the qualifying conditions. 

    Are youa nd they all renting the property you live in?

    It's a local council flat, 3 bedroom, also I looked at my mum's pension credit claim form they sent on the entitlement it clearly states and shows me and my brother living in the same house as my mum. I was informed my mum is getting SDP because of her entitlement to pip. Otherwise when I did apply for pension credit without pip she was refused. Additionally I just Wana know if I do claim carers for my brother will it affect my mums SDP in anyway shape or form and will the carers affect my brothers ESA claim? I know the answer was given by poppy but because this has now been confirmed my mum is getting SDP does the answer change that was given by poppy? Thank u
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,000 Championing
    edited October 2022
    TheOne1 said:
    I did call DWP and they stated the qualifying benefit for SDP for the pensioner is if another person in the same house is on ESA, it doesn't need to be pip or DLA, or certain disability benefits,
    That is not correct. People have to be receiving a disability benefit and ESA is not a disability benefit.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,458 Championing
    You are reading th
    TheOne1 said:
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    I did call DWP and they stated the qualifying benefit for SDP for the pensioner is if another person in the same house is on ESA, it doesn't need to be pip or DLA, or certain disability benefits, Even this site says:
    People who claim Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payment or Attendance Allowance can qualify for an extra allowance when some benefits are calculated, this is called a 'severe disability premium'. The benefits that can include the 'severe disability premium' are Income Support, Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), Housing Benefit and Pension Credit"



    That is incorrect. As i have advised numourous times throughout the thread for your mum to be entitled to SDP both you and your brother would need to be claiming a qualifying disability benefit or be registered blind. As neither of you are then she's not entitled to SDP.
    That link says that SDP can be paid with Income Related ESA/JSA/Income Support and pension credit. Claiming just ESA does not entitle anyone to SDP.
    TheOne1 said:
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    does the same still apply regarding my brothers ESA will that be affected or stoped if my mum is getting SDP and j became a carer for my brother or does Ur pervious answer still apply.

    Thank u

    When your mum's SDP ends this won't affect your brothers ESA because that's his benefit, nothing to do with your mum.
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    You are reading th
    TheOne1 said:
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    I did call DWP and they stated the qualifying benefit for SDP for the pensioner is if another person in the same house is on ESA, it doesn't need to be pip or DLA, or certain disability benefits, Even this site says:
    People who claim Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payment or Attendance Allowance can qualify for an extra allowance when some benefits are calculated, this is called a 'severe disability premium'. The benefits that can include the 'severe disability premium' are Income Support, Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), Housing Benefit and Pension Credit"



    That is incorrect. As i have advised numourous times throughout the thread for your mum to be entitled to SDP both you and your brother would need to be claiming a qualifying disability benefit or be registered blind. As neither of you are then she's not entitled to SDP.
    That link says that SDP can be paid with Income Related ESA/JSA/Income Support and pension credit. Claiming just ESA does not entitle anyone to SDP.
    TheOne1 said:
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    does the same still apply regarding my brothers ESA will that be affected or stoped if my mum is getting SDP and j became a carer for my brother or does Ur pervious answer still apply.

    Thank u

    When your mum's SDP ends this won't affect your brothers ESA because that's his benefit, nothing to do with your mum.
    Why will my mum's SDP end? So if I claim for carers for my brother will it affect my mum's SDP then? 
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    You are reading th
    TheOne1 said:
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    I did call DWP and they stated the qualifying benefit for SDP for the pensioner is if another person in the same house is on ESA, it doesn't need to be pip or DLA, or certain disability benefits, Even this site says:
    People who claim Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payment or Attendance Allowance can qualify for an extra allowance when some benefits are calculated, this is called a 'severe disability premium'. The benefits that can include the 'severe disability premium' are Income Support, Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), Housing Benefit and Pension Credit"



    That is incorrect. As i have advised numourous times throughout the thread for your mum to be entitled to SDP both you and your brother would need to be claiming a qualifying disability benefit or be registered blind. As neither of you are then she's not entitled to SDP.
    That link says that SDP can be paid with Income Related ESA/JSA/Income Support and pension credit. Claiming just ESA does not entitle anyone to SDP.
    TheOne1 said:
    calcotti said:
    The SDP of £****.40 increases the standard amount of guarantee Pension Credit from to £182.60 to £252.00/week. SDP is not separate from PC and the SDP is part of the guarantee calculation.

    You said that your mum gets State Pension of £185.15 and PC of £64.47. Although the figure is not an exact match it does suggest that SDP has been included in the PC calculation. However, as discussed, she appears not  to meet the qualifying conditions.

    does the same still apply regarding my brothers ESA will that be affected or stoped if my mum is getting SDP and j became a carer for my brother or does Ur pervious answer still apply.

    Thank u

    When your mum's SDP ends this won't affect your brothers ESA because that's his benefit, nothing to do with your mum.
    Why will my mum's SDP end? Will claiming carers for my brother stop my mum's SDP? So if I claim for carers for my brother will it return affect my mum's SDP then? 

    Thank u for all the help you are giving me
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    calcotti said:
    TheOne1 said:
    I did call DWP and they stated the qualifying benefit for SDP for the pensioner is if another person in the same house is on ESA, it doesn't need to be pip or DLA, or certain disability benefits,
    That is not correct. People have to be receiving a disability benefit and ESA is not a disability benefit.

    You didn’t answer my question
    calcotti said:
    Are you and they all renting the property you live in?
    If so, what are the arrangements?

    It's a council property which is rented yes from the council 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,000 Championing
    edited October 2022
    Poppy and I are still concerned that mum may be receiving PC incorrectly.

    If your mum is getting SDP correctly it would not be affected by you claiming CA for looking after your brother.
  • TheOne1
    TheOne1 Online Community Member Posts: 51 Connected
    I don't understand this, it says online if u claim Carers for someone it can affect there benefits in what sense does carers affect esa. This is what I am literally asking, if I became my brothers carer will it affect his ESA if so how? U said no but here:

    "Does Claiming Carer's Allowance Affect ESA? Yes, your carer's allowance can affect any other benefits you receive including Employment Support Allowance"

    I am so confused right now, can someone give me a definitive answer to my question. So if I claim carers will it affect my brothers ESA if so then how? And will it affect my mum's pension credit or SDP? If I became carer for my brother

    Thank u so much I just don't know anymore am really confused :/

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