PIP. Is this classed as fraud do I need to report change of circumstances?

jamie2471
jamie2471 Online Community Member Posts: 104 Connected
edited December 2022 in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
Hello I just want to ask a question I have a carer and appointee and descriptor following a journey I can’t go out without another person with me  I got 12 points for and sometimes I drive without anyone with me just once or twice a week just to shops and back for food  is this classed as fraud do I need to report change of circumstances?

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    edited December 2022
    The PIP descriptor that applies is the one that applies the majority of the time. If you are unable to leave the house to follow a familiar route for more than three days without someone to accompany you for PIP purposes you are unable to leave the house without someone to accompany you. The fact you can go out some days alone doesn't matter.

  • jamie2471
    jamie2471 Online Community Member Posts: 104 Connected
    calcotti said:
    The PIP descriptor that applies is the one that applies the majority of the time. If you are unable to leave the house to follow a familiar route for more than three days without someone to accompany you for PIP purposes you are unable to leave the house without someone to accompany you. The fact you can go out some days alone doesn't matter.

    So for example if I go out 2 days a week and if someone is watching me from the pip fraud team will I get prosecuted or do I need to report change of circumstances now to let them know ? I’m just really nervous and scared always that I’m bein watched 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    jamie2471 said:
    So for example if I go out 2 days a week and if someone is watching me from the pip fraud team will I get prosecuted or do I need to report change of circumstances now to let them know ? I’m just really nervous and scared always that I’m bein watched 
    As per my previous reply, PIP looks at what happens on the majority of days. If you are unable to go out and follow a familiar journey without being accompanied on four days out of 7 then you still meet the descriptor.
  • jamie2471
    jamie2471 Online Community Member Posts: 104 Connected
    calcotti said:
    jamie2471 said:
    So for example if I go out 2 days a week and if someone is watching me from the pip fraud team will I get prosecuted or do I need to report change of circumstances now to let them know ? I’m just really nervous and scared always that I’m bein watched 
    As per my previous reply, PIP looks at what happens on the majority of days. If you are unable to go out and follow a familiar journey without being accompanied on four days out of 7 then you still meet the descriptor.
    Thank you very much 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    I'm not saying it is fraud or you are doing anything wrong buf my question would be if you can do it a couple of days what stops you doing it other days? 

    Is the shop the only place you go alone 

    Pip are not in the habit or have the resources to watch people who claim but will do so if sineb8dt has been reported of benefit fraud 
  • jamie2471
    jamie2471 Online Community Member Posts: 104 Connected
    janer1967 said:
    I'm not saying it is fraud or you are doing anything wrong buf my question would be if you can do it a couple of days what stops you doing it other days? 

    Is the shop the only place you go alone 

    Pip are not in the habit or have the resources to watch people who claim but will do so if sineb8dt has been reported of benefit fraud 
    Most of the time I am in pain so it stops me from going out I only go if I need food or appointments  and if I never had a car I would never be able to go walking because of anxiety 
  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,922 Championing
    Please don't hesitate to let us know if there's anything else we can do to support you @jamie2471. We are all here for you and listening to you  :)

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