Pip text saying they haven't yet made a decision. Anyone else had this?

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  • qwerty12345
    qwerty12345 Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    What do I ask for at tribunal??
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Telephone, video or appear in person all give the same chance of success. Please also be aware that it’s not about a diagnosis.
  • qwerty12345
    qwerty12345 Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    I know that:) i will try thank you :) 
  • nasturtium
    nasturtium Online Community Member Posts: 390 Empowering
    edited April 2023
    What do I ask for at tribunal??
    First of all you need to write a MR letter (Do not telephone them to do a MR write to them with a detailed letter) using the address on your decision letter. You cannot do an appeal until you have completed the MR process and you can only do an MR after you have recieved your descision letter. So let's take it one step at a time. Your main priority now is to show what help you need and explain in detail why you cannot do the 12 PIP activities "Reliably" and that is safely, repeatedly, in a timely manor and to an acceptable standard. https://pipinfo.net/issues/reliably
    I wrote a detailed reply to a post and I advise you to read that reply in full because it will give you some advice and information about what to include in your MR letter for each of the 12 PIP activities.
    If you were not detailed on your PIP2 Questionnaire form expaining why you cannot do the 12 PIP activities Reliably then now is the chance to do that with your detialed MR letter.
    Never mention about "lies" in your MR letter because the decision maker and the assors go by the information you put on your PIP2 questionnaire form about the daily problems you have completing the 12 PIP activites "Reliably"
    Here is the link to my detailed reply that you might find useful. I advise you read it in full before you start your letter. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/680205/#Comment_680205
    I hope that has been of some help
    Kind regards
    Nasturtium
  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 888 Championing
    edited May 2023
    Goodness this old thread was really buried (I didn’t want to start a new thread as I thought a past commenter on this thread my have my answer.

    Context:

    my current pip award “ends” (but rolls on until the pip review decision) end of July 

    The dwp received my pip review paperwork the very start of oct 2022 (so 7 and a half months ago) and it’s common for people to be waiting over a year for a decision and most will get a phone call version of the f2f (I haven’t had a review f2f yet)

    My current award is only the standard level of the daily living component and as there’s only 4 points between no award and enhanced award in reality the review could swing either way.

    context over


    so out of the blue I got this text from the dwp:

    “About your PIP review. The health professional has sent us their report.
    We will make a decision on your PIP, but it may take 6 weeks before you hear from us.
    You will continue to get PIP while your award is being reviewed.
    You only need to contact us if your circumstances change.”

    In all honestly I didn’t think I’d hear back from the dwp til mid to late summer earliest after reading others experiences and I thought I’d almost certainly have the phone assessment before a decision was made so this text has thrown me for a loop as it wasn’t what I was expecting and I’m panicking because of that

    Am I right in thinking that the dwp are skipping past the phone assessment and going straight to the decision?

    if that is the case has anyone on here avoided the review phone assessment and the decision either downgrading or losing pip altogether?

    as I said I don’t do well with the unexpected 

    (edit: my mum who nominated her contact details instead of mine in the review (we only just found out we can nominate someone on my behalf to receive dwp contact on review forms) got a short phone call a fortnight back to go over the review and she didn’t tell me as she didn’t want to worry me…….sadly I’m still a hot mess)
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    @apple85 sounds like you've had a paper based assessment. This means there was enough of information to write the report without an assessment. Not a bad thing in my opinion but you'll need to wait for the decision. This can now take anything up to about 12 weeks.
  • islaodn
    islaodn Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    I’m been waiting over 4 months now for my pip still in the quenis this normal for a new claim
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    islaodn said:
    I’m been waiting over 4 months now for my pip still in the quenis this normal for a new claim

    Yes, it's perfectly normal. I know it's difficult but try to focus on something else while you wait.
  • islaodn
    islaodn Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Ok thankyou 
  • Boston
    Boston Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected
    How how did you work out from report you scored nothing 👍👍👍👍
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Boston said:
    How how did you work out from report you scored nothing 👍👍👍👍
    Advice was given to you regarding this on your thread here please have another read. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/111205/confused-about-my-pip-assessment-report#latest
  • Atlas35
    Atlas35 Online Community Member Posts: 13 Connected

    I received this text last Friday and while I know it's just an automated message, I was praying I'd be as lucky as some people appear to have been on here and hear good news soon after receiving it..

    The frustrating thing is it was 2 weeks after my assessment and I was slowly managing to stop focusing and worrying about how my assessment went and I wasn't thinking about it all the time but then I got that message and immediately started thinking about it all again 😭

  • Cag
    Cag Online Community Member Posts: 1 Listener

    I received same text on Friday. I was gutted . Thought ok then that's a no

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    This is an old thread but the advice remains the same. The text is a standard text and doesn't mean anything other than what it says.

  • jo1984
    jo1984 Online Community Member Posts: 66 Connected

    I got a txt today and it said decision not made yet, we will write to you when the decision is made, is that all standard or is that not good because they are saying they will write to me, meaning that I have not passed or is it just normal message.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    It means exactly what it says and nothing more. Yes, they will send a decision letter regardless of what that decision is.

    If it’s a first time claim and there’s an award they may send a text but not always.

  • jo1984
    jo1984 Online Community Member Posts: 66 Connected

    Ok thanks. Just was bit put off with the bit were it say, "they will write with the decision", think my brain over though the message. Hopefully I do not have to wait to much longer as it is very stressful.

  • jo1984
    jo1984 Online Community Member Posts: 66 Connected

    Not sure if this is a silly question but I applied for PIP for both dyslexia and chronic migraines, I pretty sure I have not pass the assessment but in the assessment do they score both conditions separate or together, so basically do I have to get over 8 points on both individually or is it combination of both issues.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    You don't score points for the conditions or diagnosis itself. That's not what PIP is about. You score points if you meet the descriptors. PIP is all about how your conditions affect you agains the 12 PIP activities. The daily living part includes washing/dressing/undressing/ toilet needs/preparing a simple meal/budgeting etc etc and there's 10 activities. For mobility there's 2… following and planning a journey which applies to those with mental health, sensory or cognitive impairments. Moving around part applies to physical conditions.

    The daily living and mobility are added up separately and you need to score at least 8 points for standard award and at least 12 points for Enhanced.

    You can see the descriptors here.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/Global/Migrated_Documents/adviceguide/pip-9-table-of-activities-descriptors-and-points.pdf

  • jo1984
    jo1984 Online Community Member Posts: 66 Connected

    Thanks, most people said that they requested there assessment report, can you do that anytime because I was going to ring them up and ask for mine but on the text, it said not to ring them only if you're circumstances change.