WCA waiting time
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I'm sure I've seen other members posting about similar requests with their own WCA's @SJM2023, so I think it's probably a part of the process for some claimants. It just sounds like they want to confirm some details with you and check them against your medical report.
It's probably so they can make sure they've checked through everything and have ticked all the boxes on their end. This isn't always easy for the person claiming because it can be quite long winded, but it sounds like it's nearing the end of the process.
Let us know how the call goes, and if we can help with anything else in the meantime, please ask
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I will do thanks.
Do you have any idea if this makes it less likely to be put into the support group or even link any posts about this mattter?0 -
It won't be from a work coach, it will be from a decision maker. Sometimes they ring to ask some questions before making their decision. They can do this at anytime before making a decision, regardless of how long it's been since your WCA.SJM2023 said:Pretty sure this is from a regular workcoach and Ive spoken to her several times.
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Ok thanks for that information.
I just assumed it was from a workcoach as they had the same first name and i regularly get messages on my journal from this person. Obviously different then.
Last question if thats ok and I'll obviously update you on any final decision.
Are these relatively common calls from the decision maker during the wca?0 -
It may have been your work coach that sent the message but the call will be from a decision maker. No, they don't always ring before making a decision. They will only ring if they have questions to ask.
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So i spoke to the decision maker today and it was mainly to check to see if there was any change in circumstances with my health condition, either better or worse. She seemed nice and understanding.
I've had my decision and its bad news unfortunately as I'm guessing I've been deemed fit for work which I'm shocked about. I do get PIP daily living standard which i know is very different.
Basically the UCD83 letter said that
"following your WCA we have decided that you do not have limited capability for work and may be able to do some type of work"
I will request a copy of the assessment and likely appeal.
I can't imagine what type of work they think I'm capable of actually.
Any advice would be good!
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Yes, that’s a fit for work decision. I had a feeling this was what it was related too because they do sometimes ring before making this decision to ask if there’s been any changes to your health condition.
Unfortunately, PIP doesn’t automatically entitle you to LCWRA.
You can challenge the decision by first requesting the MR. For this you need to state which group you think you should have been placed into and your reasons why. You can see the descriptors for LCWRA here https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/universal-credit-uc/uc-faq/limited-capability-for-work-related-activity0 -
Thanks for all your input, much appreciated. I will appeal yes.
The most important thing going forwards is, what jobs can my workcoach actually tell me i have to pursue/apply for?
I have chronic lower back pain which is getting worse and basically just doing pain management with the physio as I've told i will always have this condition by the physio and my GP.
I rely on lifts to get to important appointments and often cancel (like yesterday at the physio) as my back spasms can be very severe.
I have ongoing fit notes for over 1 year and declared not fit for work.
How would this work in reality, its ludicrous! How could the workcoach overide my GPs diagnosis about my condition. I made it explicitly clear in the uc50 form and wca about the problems with mobility and severe pain, especially standing/sitting for periods of 20 min or so.
I'm confused how this plays out with being made fit for work!0 -
I'm sorry you have to go through this. What is expected of you now will depend on your claimant commiments, which you will need to agree to. The WCA assesses your ability to do any type of work because it's not about the work you can't do, it's about the work you can do.Unfortunately, a fit note isn't proof that you have limited capability for work. The work coach hasn't overidden that, a decision maker did by finding you fit for work. No further fit notes will be accepted, while you request the MR and Tribunal. (if it gets that far)If it's the mobilising descriptor that applies to you then please also be aware that part of this descriptor takes into consideration your ability to use a self propel wheelchair, it's not just about your ability to walk.0
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Thanks.
Yes, i made it quite clear in the uc50 form that any possibility of using a wheelchair would be very difficult because of chronic pain when sitting for even short periods. Its the last thing i want to be doing. I understood the whole substantial risk part.
Its all very genuine and I'm constantly moving seats to ease the pain.
Last question if that's ok as I'm sure your busy on here.
Scenario: my workcoach states i should apply for job x, either I can't get to the interview because my back spasms are so bad (likely) or i somehow managed to start this job but I can't continue due to the same problems (very likely) as had to quit previous call centre job, what actually would the workcoach be able to do? bearing in mind my GP and physio are right on board with my condition, which ive categorically been told isn't going to improve!0 -
Sorry to post this again, but i think its important going forward if i have a reasonable idea of the process:
If after my workcoach draws up my commitments and after taking my health condition into consideration, and i agree to it and then do as they ask.
If i physically can't attend interviews or i can't continue in a job which happened last time because of severe and chronic back pain (could barely stand up for several days and had to quit) - not being able to sit in one place or stand for even short periods, and this is a recognised condition that my GP is fully on board with and I'm seeing a specialist physio which i even have difficulty getting to see because of my condition.....what would the workcoach be able do in this scenario?
Surely you can't be sanctioned by attempting/trying to do exactly what they ask based on my commitments, but not being able to physically do it based on my recognised health condition that even UC don't dispute?
It seems like i could be in perpetual limbo!
If possible i would like some clarity please.
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As you’ve been found fit for work then as I advised what is expected of you will depend on your claimant commitments.Your GP saying you’re not fit for work makes no difference at this stage. If you don’t attend appointments you could be sanctioned.With regards to leaving a job if you do find one then providing you have good reason for leaving then you shouldn’t be sanctioned.
Have you requested the MR yet?0 -
Thanks for the reply.
Yes i have requested a MR, not that UC had any idea of what the preceedure entailed.0 -
Has the MR progressed any further yet @SJM2023? 0
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Yes, after i submitted the online form the decision was very quick, less than 1 week. Unfortunately, and as expected, i was unsuccessful
I am now going through the tribunal process.0 -
HI I'm seeking futher advice regarding my wca. I had my wca assessment over a month ago. I had a work search interview last week and the lady said if I had a overpayment it'd get taken if im awarded lcwra. Does this mean my work coach has a idea of the outcome or could it just be a off hand comment. She also said she'd book me a appointment in 2 weeks time as hopefully it will be sorted by then. Please can someone help
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As advised your work coach won't know the outcome of your WCA until you do.
They generally don't know the ins and outs of the system and often give incorrect advice.
You are much better off contacting UC and asking for a copy of the report, than relying on anything your work coach says.
I'm struggling to see how an award of LCWRA or LCW could possibly cause an overpayment. I think that's another example of poor advice from your work coach unfortunately.
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OKay thank you again for the advice
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Is it normal to have to accept work commitments whilst waiting for wca desition? It says on Internet uc could be waiting for me to accept these before uploading my desition kimmy87
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Yes it is normal to have work commitments to accept while awaiting a WCA decision.
UC will upload your decision when it's made, regardless of whether you have accepted commitments or not.
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