Marriage

princesslelly
princesslelly Online Community Member Posts: 62 Contributor
Please don't judge me, my fiance lives over 100 miles from me, so far it has worked, we want to get married but he cannot relocate due to work commitments he is 2 years from retiring, i cannot relocate to him as he is lodging in a house and i cannot live there plus my children are here, he has no ties at all, no family, we can wait but obviously there is the worry that something might happen to him, {we never know} my reason for posting is if we get married but still continue to live apart will he have to support me as he obviously has bills rent to pay where he lives, and could not run 2 homes i am on benefits esa pip due to disability [ i asked on another site and was bombarded with you are a benefit cheat this is not the case, its more a case of being his next of kin if something should happen to him and him being mine i am just after advice please about if i can marry but still claim benefits as we will live apart or do i need to wait or is there another option tia   

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Getting married will not affect any of your benefits. What may affect them is living together. 
  • princesslelly
    princesslelly Online Community Member Posts: 62 Contributor
    Thank you for your reply, we do see each other on a weekend but i run my home and he runs his place, i have checked that i am doing nothing wrong in seeing him for 2 nights  once he retires then he will move here due to my family being here, once again thank you Poppy 
  • Hannah_Alumni
    Hannah_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,866 Championing
    @princesslelly I'm so sorry you had such an awful experience on the other forum. I hope the community can be a more welcoming and supportive place for you :) 

    Congratulations on wanting to get married! Please keep us updated, and I wish you all the best on your wedding day <3

    I see Poppy has answered your query. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any more :) 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    Getting married will not affect any of your benefits. What may affect them is living together. 
    ...... and how the DWP will interpret your marriage situation.
    What I can say is that many husbands work either away in the UK or even abroad for months/years on end. It doesn't mean to say that they are less committed to the marriage but they in the main would be treated as husband and wife for both tax and welfare cases.

    You could contact the DWP and get a decision in principle as to what would happen if you became married.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Getting married will not affect any of your benefits. What may affect them is living together. 
    ...... and how the DWP will interpret your marriage situation.
    What I can say is that many husbands work either away in the UK or even abroad for months/years on end. It doesn't mean to say that they are less committed to the marriage but they in the main would be treated as husband and wife for both tax and welfare cases.

    You could contact the DWP and get a decision in principle as to what would happen if you became married.
    I disagree. Just because a couple are married it doesn’t mean they are living together as man and wife for benefits purposes. 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 739 Connected
    I disagree. Just because a couple are married it doesn’t mean they are living together as man and wife for benefits purposes. 
    So if I take your word for it, you can be married but be treated as two single people for benefit purposes if you don't actually live with each other?
    Well my dear brother-in-law is being shafted as he works when he can in the UK and claims UC as a married man but his wife is a resident and lives and works in Ethiopia. She has never been to the UK nor left her home country.

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    Community_Scope Posts: 1,827 Empowering

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    I disagree. Just because a couple are married it doesn’t mean they are living together as man and wife for benefits purposes. 
    So if I take your word for it, you can be married but be treated as two single people for benefit purposes if you don't actually live with each other?
    Well my dear brother-in-law is being shafted as he works when he can in the UK and claims UC as a married man but his wife is a resident and lives and works in Ethiopia. She has never been to the UK nor left her home country.


    Being married doesn't mean you're living together as a married couple (LTAMC). How can it be possible for your BiL to claim UC with his wife if she's not even living in the UK? lol 

    When you claim UC as a couple, you both need to start the claim individually and then one of you will receive a linking code to join both claims together. 

    How on earth was it possible for his wife to do this and confirm identity when not even living in the UK? It wouldn't physically be possible for her to claim UC anyway.

    I'm sorry but what you're saying here really makes no sense at all.

    It's the same as 2 people who are currently not married but LTAMC and claim UC as a couple. That couple split up but still live under the same roof but it is possible for each individual person to then claim as single people, if they can prove they are not LTAMC. Infact, i've very recently helped and advised 2 people i know i real life do exactly this. Then went on to claim UC successfully as single people.

  • princesslelly
    princesslelly Online Community Member Posts: 62 Contributor
    It is not for benefit purposes my partner works and lives over 100 miles from me, he claims no benefits but rents a place so could not afford to work and run his home and mine as he lives with his landlord so I cannot go there, we can wait to get married but he has no children no family and concerned about me  being his next of kin hence the marriage
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    It is not for benefit purposes my partner works and lives over 100 miles from me, he claims no benefits but rents a place so could not afford to work and run his home and mine as he lives with his landlord so I cannot go there, we can wait to get married but he has no children no family and concerned about me  being his next of kin hence the marriage

    Getting married will not affect any means tested benefits you maybe claiming, if you're not living together. Living together will affect them, whether you're married or not.
  • DonBass86
    DonBass86 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    Hi @poppy123456 Out of all the information on the internet, your answers are the ones that give me the most confidence regarding this. My situation is very similar. My partner, who receives ESA and is now transitioning to UC, and I want to get married, but he’s afraid of losing his benefits. We have never lived together due to his health (we even live in different cities, he with his parents and I, alone). When we get married, this situation won’t change for a while while I finish my studies where I currently live. Do you think he should still notify the DWP about the change in his marital status to avoid possible sanctions (since marriage is listed as one of the conditions that need to be reported), providing evidence that we don’t live together? I’m not sure if the fact that he’s transitioning to UC complicates the situation or not. Thank you so much for your help.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    Thank you! No, he doesn't need to inform DWP when you get married, he would only need to inform them if you live together. Getting married doesn't affect benefits entitlement, living together will.

    Claiming UC will not change my advice.

  • DonBass86
    DonBass86 Online Community Member Posts: 2 Listener

    Thank you so much, Poppy! I'm so sorry to ask more questions, but apart from the document you shared about LTAMC, there are other official sources out there to give further advice on this? Thank you so much again ❤️

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    That document I posted above is the ADM which is the official guide for decision makers and is all the evidence and proof you need that my advice is correct.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing

    Welcome to the community @DonBass86 🙂 I hope you continue to find the answers you need here!

    I hope you are doing well today and have a lovely weekend