New pilot scheme following a trial in Leeds

shellbell20 · October 2023

I don't want to scare monger anyone, but what are your thoughts on this latest news? https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/dwp-start-cutting-universal-credit-27999773 The Tories seem to do what they want without a general consensus from the public and it seems to be very hidden unless someone else has written about it on the forum. An hour appointment with a doctor who knows nothing about you and your daily struggles, yep that works......not! Bullies the whole lot of them.

Bettahm · October 2023

Cant believe a word they say as they change the rules, change the dates, do what they like without consulting those they are harming, anytime, anywhere, and without notice.
Very worrying news.

Bettahm · October 2023

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

poppy123456 · October 2023

Confirmation here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/back-to-work-boost-for-disability-benefit-claimants-as-ground-breaking-employment-scheme-expanded

WhatThe · October 2023

'Voluntary discussions' I do not believe for a minute!

poppy123456 · October 2023

TheManFromLondon said:

poppy123456 said:

Confirmation here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/back-to-work-boost-for-disability-benefit-claimants-as-ground-breaking-employment-scheme-expanded

Thank you. I guess whoever can mix and interact with people just got a huge headache. Meaning, mobility and physical ladies and gents, prepare yourselves.

It mentions work coaches but those claiming the old legacy ESA work coaches don’t even exist.

I’m the sort of person that won’t worry until I know I have something to worry about. Until that time I will put it to the back of my mind. This is the way I always deal with things like this, reviews included.

shellbell20 · October 2023

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

shellbell20 · October 2023

woodbine said:

If I was in a good mood I would say maybe this is the Tories trying to work out how to approach a universal benefit set up, however I'm not and they are not, it looks like they are now decided they are going into opposition for a decade and want to leave a "legacy" behind them.

Yes, no doubt use it for their manifesto when they are on the back bench, here's how we encourage/bully disabled people to get back to work, saving the country millions. I read a posting on here that I found really disturbing, but I cant find it now. Some Tory MP said work frees you. I have heard a similar quote in the past which I also found repulsive

Bettahm · October 2023

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

shellbell20 · October 2023

TheManFromLondon said:

For anyone who wants to read the Work Coach manual: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/403081/response/1002168/attach/6/HO%2005.01%20Work%20Coach%20Reference%20Guide.pdf

It is exactly what this new BS supposed to do. So nothing new.

But in the general climate of the Gov trying to shake up things, @poppy123456 is 100% right, why worry for something that hasn't happened yet.

I would love to share that sentiment, but when it comes to my news feed on my phone and its already a pilot scheme, my severe anxiety sets in. I guess people cope with it in different ways. I also guess I would rather me in the know that not, as if I am the know I can do something about it, like sign a petition and vote with my feet. I understand your sentiment too, not to worry until it happens, this is why I was reluctant to share the news, but it would be a dis-service not to.

shellbell20 · October 2023

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

WhatThe · October 2023

Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'

Voluntary discussions at mandatory appointments (subject to sanction) is what the minister forgot to mention. UC itself has been a 10-year trial of pilot schemes with no risk assessment ever undertaken.

Bettahm · October 2023

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .
The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality.
Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.
I cant go into town. Simple as that.
The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.

shellbell20 · October 2023

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .
The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality.
Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.
I cant go into town. Simple as that.
The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.

Your story sounds similar to mine, my psychologist wrote to my new doctor to get social services involved, but nothing has happened. I have Complex PTSD, severe anxiety, depression and agoraphobia now stemming from my anxiety. My psychologist tried to get me out to no avail, I didn't see my doctor in person for 2 years all done over the phone until I had to register with a new one and have bloods taken as my legs kept swelling up, my family came with me and I hid in the toilet until called. I haven't been to the optician now for 3 years, I get my family to order glasses online, reading ones at 5.5 strength I have so many hospital appointments for my arthritis and Menieres Disease which keep getting pushed back as I can't get my head around going even with my family, just simple things my psychologist asked me to write down, for instance, to make a phone call, she had to break it down in steps due to my anxiety. Then I was advised to talk to imaginary people, for example, a caring person who would say you need to eat to feel better and your doctor's appointment is at 2 pm, so you need to break that down, what time your family will get out of your bed, what you will wear, what to do when you get to the doctors to cope with your stress, another imaginary person for when I feel suicidal who I can talk too and who will advise me not to be so hard on myself. The trouble is I couldn't concentrate enough to talk to them and felt too depressed to imagine the scenario and though I tried and tried, my head was elsewhere, just worrying, worrying, fleeting from worrying, to no self-worth, remembering the past and then becoming suicidal and it continues like that each and every day.

shellbell20 · October 2023

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .
The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality.
Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.
I cant go into town. Simple as that.
The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.

Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care.

Bettahm · October 2023

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .
The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality.
Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.
I cant go into town. Simple as that.
The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.

Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care.

Yes we have some stuff in common for sure.
I'm autistic with OCD and have depression, bad anxiety and agoraphobia and other stuff. Can no longer ring or go to gps. Just cant deal with it. Need to see the dentist and trying to get an advocate, someone who could make the appt and come with me. Need to go to eye clinic and have cancelled a lot of appointments this year as want to get my eyes fixed but cant go through with it, cant go there. So just keep trying to get help but feel like giving up. No family, no friends . That doesn't bother me, my focus now is getting this advocate. I've emailed PohWer today about it.
CBT doesnt work for me and seems to be all most of them offer now, like S2C and IPBT. So really unsure where transforming care could place me now.
I wouldn't have cmht back again. They made me feel worse with their approach and questioning.

shellbell20 · October 2023

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .
The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality.
Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.
I cant go into town. Simple as that.
The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.

Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care.

Yes we have some stuff in common for sure.
I'm autistic with OCD and have depression, bad anxiety and agoraphobia and other stuff. Can no longer ring or go to gps. Just cant deal with it. Need to see the dentist and trying to get an advocate, someone who could make the appt and come with me. Need to go to eye clinic and have cancelled a lot of appointments this year as want to get my eyes fixed but cant go through with it, cant go there. So just keep trying to get help but feel like giving up. No family, no friends . That doesn't bother me, my focus now is getting this advocate. I've emailed PohWer today about it.
CBT doesnt work for me and seems to be all most of them offer now, like S2C and IPBT. So really unsure where transforming care could place me now.
I wouldn't have cmht back again. They made me feel worse with their approach and questioning.

I adored my psychologist and became distraught when the sessions ended as she couldn't help me from afar and it frustrated her as she couldn't even get social services involved from a far to help with my MH but also my physical needs. It's a broken system. However, I just had a thought imagining us forced to work and the employer trying to do reasonable adjustments for us, it would be farcical and actually impossible. I hope you get help, I don't know where I would be without my family and friends.

Bettahm · October 2023

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.
So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.
Ready for your WCA
One size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)

Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.

I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.
Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary'
The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'
I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.
Yes, I'm worried.

I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.

I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .
The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality.
Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.
I cant go into town. Simple as that.
The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.

Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care.

Yes we have some stuff in common for sure.
I'm autistic with OCD and have depression, bad anxiety and agoraphobia and other stuff. Can no longer ring or go to gps. Just cant deal with it. Need to see the dentist and trying to get an advocate, someone who could make the appt and come with me. Need to go to eye clinic and have cancelled a lot of appointments this year as want to get my eyes fixed but cant go through with it, cant go there. So just keep trying to get help but feel like giving up. No family, no friends . That doesn't bother me, my focus now is getting this advocate. I've emailed PohWer today about it.
CBT doesnt work for me and seems to be all most of them offer now, like S2C and IPBT. So really unsure where transforming care could place me now.
I wouldn't have cmht back again. They made me feel worse with their approach and questioning.

I adored my psychologist and became distraught when the sessions ended as she couldn't help me from afar and it frustrated her as she couldn't even get social services involved from a far to help with my MH but also my physical needs. It's a broken system. However, I just had a thought imagining us forced to work and the employer trying to do reasonable adjustments for us, it would be farcical and actually impossible. I hope you get help, I don't know where I would be without my family and friends.

Thank you
I hope we all get help, and we stick together against the dwp and our broken system. It's good being on Scope as I cant do social engagement so it helps to come here with problems and share and discuss things over.
Good to know @shellbell20

Bettahm · October 2023

@shellbell20
Good to know you....
That last bit from previous message

shellbell20 · October 2023

Bettahm said:

@shellbell20
Good to know you....
That last bit from previous message

Yes, it is good being on Scope it is the only social engagement I do really other than with family, I don't trust anyone, but on Scope I trust the people here as we are in the same boat and we can help each other navigate things, answer questions if we have the knowledge, give our opinion without fear of being judged and socialise even if we just want to talk about our day.

Bettahm · October 2023

shellbell20 said:

Bettahm said:

@shellbell20
Good to know you....
That last bit from previous message

Yes, it is good being on Scope it is the only social engagement I do really other than with family, I don't trust anyone, but on Scope I trust the people here as we are in the same boat and we can help each other navigate things, answer questions if we have the knowledge, give our opinion without fear of being judged and socialise even if we just want to talk about our day.

Yes! Amen to that :-:smile:

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