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  • Alex
    Alex Posts: 1,305 Pioneering
    edited January 2017
    PonyAxeS said:
    For wheelchair users, the simple fact is that wheelchairs are great on smooth surfaces, and the definition of the countryside is rough surfaces. I have made the countryside accessible to anyone, using any wheelchair. The problem is the countryside organisations are very resistant to the idea of people who use wheelchairs, enjoying the countryside. Any help would be appreciated. http://www.ponyaxes.com/ shows what we can do. We just need to be allowed to do it.
    Wow, that looks amazing @PonyAxeS!

    Have you come across http://disabledramblers.co.uk/ ? They did a guest post for Scope a while ago. Seems like you both have similar aims to make the countryside accessible to everyone!
  • PonyAxeS
    PonyAxeS Community member Posts: 3 Listener
    Disabled Ramblers, like Dartmoor National Park, The National Trust etc, would rather not look at what I do. I have tried. Maybe you could persuade them to talk to me. Simon
  • nanof6
    nanof6 Community member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    you sound like right moaning ////, glad i dont live near you, your attitude on life is very nrgitive, i bet you dont have any friends, you need to lighten up a bit.
  • Sam_Alumni
    Sam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,671 Disability Gamechanger
    I suppose the argument would be @Fundamentalist that public buildings cant be everything to every person, they have to just make the best efforts to be accessible to as many as possible.  I understand you can't stand the heat, but if all places were cold then that would exclude many more people including older people, babies and people who need warmth.  

    Could you wear a sun hat and carry a fan? What can YOU do to improve your own life?

    So many of us have extra needs and though society should try and accommodate, it is also is our own responsibility to try and find coping strategies and learn how we can deal with the issues we face.

    Some people do think hot countries are paradise, I understand that you don't but it doesnt make it untrue for everyone who does. 

    You are entitled to your own opinion, but try and see things from other perspectives and maybe it will make you feel happier?
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • nanof6
    nanof6 Community member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    FM that is who im talking about
  • Fundamentalist
    Fundamentalist Community member Posts: 133 Courageous
    Hi from Fm. There is an enormous difference between warm and far too hot. There is also a simple solution to overheating of public buildings with transparent roofing and that is heat reflective coatings which are easily available even to the public for putting on conservatories to stop them heating up inside like a furnace and I've suggested that to the authorities but they never want to know, it's always the same, folk like me are expected to just automatically like what "everyone else" likes and be exactly the same, that is a dreadfully negative attitude. And just in case you've forgotten there was a time when the wheelchair crowd were just expected to accept being totally excluded from most buildings and vehicles because of steps and now thank goodness after a lot of hard protest and campaigning that appalling attitude has changed for the better but for folk like me it's all going the other way and regressing which is right out of order and I absolutely stand by every word and opinion etc. I hope one day you all live to see the day when you will see that I'm right and NOT just merely "negative", I totally refuse to accept that. I bet that was said by many about the complaints by the wheelchair crowd once back in the bad old days of total exclusion when they were so appallingly referred to as "spastics" or "spazzes" or "cripples" etc. and were so appallingly mocked and ridiculed and despised by so many, I know, I was there back in the 1960's and early 70's. And it's also a bit like the situation in soho in London in the 1850's when a certain Dr. John Snow knew that the dreadful cholera outbreak that was killing so many was in the water and not in the air as everyone thought and that included the government at the time and Dr.Snow was proved right. And he stood by what he knew to be right and so do I and I always will. The majority is NOT "always right" and that has been proved throughout history. Fm.
  • Sam_Alumni
    Sam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,671 Disability Gamechanger
    I don't think anyone here thinks everyone should be the same FM, every member here either is a disabled person or is a family, friend or carer of a disabled person.  Each one of us has our own specific needs, what is right for me may be wrong for you and vice versa.  

    If all buildings had a reflective coating and were cooler, would you then go out? I ask because you have said before that you have a list of hundreds of things that are unacceptable to you and that the noise of others talking and laughing is difficult for you.

    I just wonder what difference this coating would make if there were still hundreds of other things that would still stop you wanting to go out?

    I do sympathise with your situation @Fundamentalist - I just also think that we have to think about what we can do to make changes for ourselves alongside asking society to make places accessible.
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • Fundamentalist
    Fundamentalist Community member Posts: 133 Courageous
    Hi from Fm. Actually it wasn't "hundreds". I also really like beautiful natural scenery and there's plenty where I live. I also really like bluebells in the spring and the really awesome trees in the autumn and about 40 minutes on the bus from where I live there's a place full of really awesome deciduous trees and for years I tried to get good pictures of them but every time I went there with my camera on a sunny morning in the autumn it clouded over the exact moment I arrived there several times every autumn for years but I wouldn't give up. I once even waited there all day for three solid days for the sun to come out and eventually I got some really stunning pictures. I also really like stunning blazing red sunsets and believe me you haven't lived until you've seen one at sea on a calm day as I'm sure anyone who has will agree! It's a sight you won't forget! Fm.
  • nanof6
    nanof6 Community member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    thats better fm, 
  • Fundamentalist
    Fundamentalist Community member Posts: 133 Courageous
    Hi from Fm. Actually I do have a few friends, I just don't see them that often. One is an Indian chap who's a retired civil engineer and he's also a very devout and committed Christian minister and he travels the world preaching and I sometimes do jobs on his home and I also know a bunch of bikers who have a big club and they hold events to raise funds for various charities and I sometimes do repairs and custom alterations and upgrades on their various bikes, some of which are very old and I have specialist knowledge of the electrical systems of old motorbikes and I've even built some one off specialised test gear for things like testing old ignition coils etc. And I also specialise in old charging systems used on old motorbikes and also old ignition systems, some of which are a bit technical. Fm.
  • nanof6
    nanof6 Community member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    FM, now that kind of chat is much more interesting than all that moaning you was doing,  i feel i want to read to the end with out getting depressed, you seem to have great nolage in moterbikes, im glad you seem a lot happier, have a good day.

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