So now the tories are gone

Dave1993
Dave1993 Community member Posts: 51 Connected

People have been saying Rachael Reeves has said they wont cut PIP any truth to this or not?

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  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community member Posts: 1,994 Trailblazing
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 59,054 Championing

    We don’t know anything more than we knew yesterday.

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Community member Posts: 51 Connected

    I'm on about the comments that Rachael reeves said people on this forum said she said PIP would not be getting cut but they provided no proof of the comment and i could not find it i want to know if she actually said this or if people are making stuff up

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Community member Posts: 51 Connected

    click the link i linked on the post above read the 1st comment of that post

  • Bydand
    Bydand Community member Posts: 169 Empowering

    No one knows at this stage

    Many many people have posted on this forum worried and concerned about it and rightly so as no information is sometimes worse than getting the information.

    But No point in worrying about it at this stage as there is absolutely nothing we can do until they raise the issue in the future and we know any proposals.

    My opinion is that they will have to look at the benefits system as it stands as the costs now and forecasted into the future are unsustainable…..what that looks like is anybody’s guess though

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Community member Posts: 304 Empowering

    I am under the impression that the new government were the saviour . I know my thoughts on this .

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Community member Posts: 304 Empowering

    I'd like to make myself clear about Rachael Reeves. I posted the link and one of the comments were that she said which was not written by me , it was a comment from a poster on the link .

    I said it was not my comment and that I don't know who said it or if Rachael Reeves said or where it was posted originally. I did try to research it , but couldn't find anything , but in my defence I only posted a link and highlighted one of the comments in the hope it would give some comfort to those who were worried , but I need to be clear IT WAS NOT MY COMMENT, NOR DID I SAY IT WAS COSHER .

  • worried33
    worried33 Community member Posts: 516 Pioneering

    Lots of headlines from Kendall in the press and her twitter account, although without going into specifics.

    She is really gunning for long term economic inactive people as some kind of goal for her, but as always she is a ghoster in terms of her constituents and people trying to track her down for answers. The Labour version of IDS.

  • Cantilip
    Cantilip Community member Posts: 624 Empowering

    Nice clear definition

    When Ms Patel talked about economically inactive people, she was specifically referring to the roughly 8.5 million economically inactive people between the ages of 16 and 64. (In other words she wasn’t suggesting that staff shortages are filled by retrained pensioners.)

    Working-age economically inactive people have various reasons for not looking for and/or being able to start work.

    The biggest reason is that a lot of these people (27%) are students. 26% say they’re economically inactive because they’re too sick (most of whom have a long-term illness). 22% are looking after family or the home. And 13% have taken early retirement.

    12% said there was some other reason for their economic inactivity. 

    The Office for National Statistics also collects data on whether people in economic inactivity want a job. 22% (roughly 1.9 million people) said they do want a job.

    https://fullfact.org/economy/economically-inactive/

    Partly the problem here is the hugely increased numbers of young people becoming students instead of joining the labour force.

    The most notable thing is those off sick are the only group who might, repeat might be returned to work, only group over whom the government has any leverage. They can't drag students out of college, demand what the Americans call 'stay-at-home-moms' take jobs and those who have taken early retirement can presumably afford to have done so and would just laugh at the suggestion they return to toil

  • michael57
    michael57 Community member Posts: 436 Pioneering

    but it was the governments over time have kept raising the school leaving age to help kerb unemployment and make there figures look better what goes around comes around

  • Cantilip
    Cantilip Community member Posts: 624 Empowering

    @michael57 Oh it surely does, raise school-leaving age, try to get 50% of kids to uni, then throw up hands in horror at shortage of workers.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community member Posts: 516 Pioneering

    We stop freedom of movement, then act all confused why there is a supposed shortage of workers. Who would have thought if you cut off the supply there wouldnt be problems. Still seems forbidden in politics to say anything was caused by Brexit so they need scapegoats.

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Community member Posts: 304 Empowering

    But freedom of movement never ended , everyday people are flocking here , surly there are some skilled workers in the amount of illegal immigrants entering the UK?

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Community member Posts: 110 Contributor

    I remember 2016 when some British people were very happy about Brexit. I have always said to my British colleagues (I am an EU citizen): what are you happy about? we will see who will work in factories, warehouses, fields, etc. when we're gone.
    And 7 years have passed, 10000000 jobs are available and there is no one to work. unbelievable but true.

    I woke up at 3 a.m. and ran to the employment agency and I was happy when I worked at least 3 days picking carrots in Morrison's. 5 days was a dream :)

    My record was 17 days without a rest day and a 10-hour shift at the factory. Even though it was illegal, people were afraid to oppose it in order not to lose their job. Because the target had to be made before Christmas.
    And now a million vacancies... :)

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Community member Posts: 304 Empowering

    doesn't matter , they are still coming here here and last year 750,000 came .

  • stay_positive
    stay_positive Community member Posts: 304 Empowering

    My neighbours are Nigerian and voted Brexit, other side from Afghanistan voted Brexit. Its about balance and skilled workers which we need , but you cannot blame it on Brexit ,and every country should rule themselves shouldn't they ?

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Community member Posts: 110 Contributor

    I really don't understand these rules today. since: quote: "The UK saw a net gain of 311,000 migrants in the year to June 2016, which dropped to a net gain of 212,000 migrants in the year to June 2019."

    I worked during those years and it wasn't really easy to find a job.
    So how is it possible that 750,000 emigrants arrived last year and there are a million vacancies? Does that mean they don't have the right to work?

  • egister
    egister Posts: 279 Empowering

    If the government wants disabled people to work, then all social benefits must be preserved for them.