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Catherine21
Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

So recieved a response from government which albus will put up so she wrote that the most severe would not be asked to work Define severe what fo people think is severe ??? Also looking at changing WCA I never had one problem with WCA they didn't answer all questions I even mentioned the suicide rates and lack of DWP experience to deal with most vulnerable I did say feeding us to lions wolves can't remember also stated why do they bully us is it to keep us low so we have no energy I did respond define severe getting angry but I will definitely sit on it as was so worried about what I wrote before

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  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 8,327 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Dear [Name removed by Moderator],

    Thank you for your email of 31 July about Universal Credit migration. Government Ministers receive a large volume of correspondence and they are unable to reply personally on every occasion. I have been asked to respond.

    Universal Credit is replacing income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance, income-related

    Employment and Support Allowance, Income Support, Housing Benefit, Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit. Claimants receiving these legacy benefits are being invited to make a claim to Universal Credit to maintain benefit entitlement.

    The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) is committed to ensuring that the transition to Universal Credit works as smoothly as possible for all claimants. By migrating to Universal Credit, claimants will continue to receive the benefits they are entitled to through a digital benefits system, allowing claimants to manage their claims more effectively.

    Eligible claimants who migrate to Universal Credit after receiving a migration notice from the DWP and would otherwise have a lower entitlement, could be assessed for Transitional Protection (TP) which is designed to give claimants time to adjust to the move to Universal Credit.

    For claimants to be considered for TP, they must:

    • Make a claim to Universal Credit on or before the ‘deadline date’ in their migration notice or the given deadline date following agreement to extend the deadline. In which case their legacy benefits will terminate when their Universal Credit starts; or

    • Make a claim to Universal Credit within one month of their given deadline date. In which case, Universal Credit will automatically be backdated to the deadline date and TP can then be considered.

    There is a range of support available to help customers successfully move to Universal Credit, including:

    • A dedicated Move to Universal Credit telephone helpline.

    • Comprehensive guidance on gov.uk.

    • Face-to-face support in local Jobcentres.

    • Help to Claim, currently delivered independently by Citizens Advice, in partnership with Citizens Advice Scotland, which provides practical tailored support to enable individuals to make a new claim to Universal Credit or move from legacy benefits.

    This support is available up until the first correct Universal Credit payment is awarded.

    Regarding your comments about disabled people being forced to work, I would like to stress that, the Government is committed to supporting disabled people and determined that support should be focused on people who need it most. The Government will continue to protect those with the most severe conditions. Assistance from the social security system has been designed with their needs in mind. While also ensuring those that can work are supported in doing so.

    Turning to your comments about Personal Independence Payment, the consultation on the Modernising Support Green Paper closed on Monday 22 July. Over 16,000 responses were received and the Department are engaging with these responses.

    The proposals in this Green Paper were developed by the previous government. This Government will be considering their own approach to social security in due course.

    In terms of wider support for disabled people, the Government have committed to transforming employment support for disabled people and reforming or replacing the Work Capability Assessment.

    We will provide further details on our approach as soon as we can.

    Yours sincerely

    Naomi Agius

    Acting Head of the Ministerial Correspondence Team

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing
  • Cantilip
    Cantilip Online Community Member Posts: 623 Empowering

    It's a good question, Catherine. Although it doesn't matter to me insofar as I'm retired so no-one's going to suggest I work, I also wonder what they mean by 'severe'. I know there are people in a much worse state than I am, who are bedbound, who are incontinent both ways, blind, on dialysis, on oxygen, etc, but what is wrong with me affects every moment of my life and I shouldn't appreciate having it trivialized.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    Exactly I did write and say if your looking at pushing people with mental health into you will be liable for health and saftey for employees and claimants also asked why spending millions on refugees whilst thousand homeless on streets I used example of lady sleeping tescos and in shop doorway she had all her belongings and a pair of slippers beside her it really broke me I tried to wake her up she was fast asleep I asked why the goverment bullies us and treated us so bad I said is it to keep us low so we have no energy to fight back I said being disabled in uk Is like a prison sentence so my response to this email was define severe ! A

  • AKR
    AKR Online Community Member Posts: 176 Empowering

    @Catherine21 as I have mentioned in the past, these sorts of responses stay loyal to overarching policy and are always fairly generic in nature. You aren't going get a list of specific answers to every question you have raised.

    And no letter of this nature is going to set out a definition of "severe" or provide any further clarification. Not even legislation sets out definitions for every single word used within it.

    Even if definitions are used (for example in legislation/codes of practice etc) they can be "loosely" worded, open to further interpretation, a mixture of objective/subjective criteria, and are often the focus of consideration by the appellate courts over the course of time.

    I can't tell you how much time I spent pouring over definition clauses and any case law associated with them in my career (i.e. definition clauses in primary legislation, commercial contracts, contracts of employment etc). Oftentimes, that was just to provide an opinion in relation to whether a client had the right to bring a claim, let alone the actual merits of any claim.

    Taking another example - the ICD 11. Some diseases/disorders have specifiers of "mild", "moderate", and "severe", which in themselves are broadly worded, but they are in the minority e.g. Personality disorder. Most just have a general descriptor of the clinical/pathological symptoms/markers.

    Some diseases/disorders would be regarded as severe by their very nature; but in many severity is dependent on the individual, their circumstances/environment, any comorbidities they have and so on.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    I know I've been reading over and over see my nature os to respond I did say what they classed as severe But I'm sitting on my hands because I wad terrified when I sent the email that I'd be arrested so have to remember that thankyou for explaining I don't want to watch on 30th but at least we will know what's happening

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    What us personality disorder pls I didn't understand thanks

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,670 Championing

    I hope their definition of severe is the same as mine or likely a GPs, but I doubt it sadly.

    Hope they don't umbrella some.conditions and actually go by an individuals limitations.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    Was thinking the same like tories said people feel little bit bluesy .... and also said everyone getting diagnosed with ADHD I might get in trouble for this I don't think labour our any better like my doctor said mentally unstable to work but pip form says don't send doctors note as doctors don't know you as well mine does !!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    Can I ask because someone said they can pass these changes through faster if they was to change wca or pip sorry hope you understand my writing

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 861 Championing
    edited September 6

    @Catherine21

    I am not surprised by the reply you received from your MP. Procedural norms suggest that major policy discussions should occur in Parliament, not through individual communications with constituents. MPs may worry that sharing opinions too early could lead to misunderstandings. While they acknowledge concerns, they often avoid giving specific opinions on proposals that haven’t yet been debated.

    Catherine, did you see my earlier post about Liz Kendall and the DWP’s first opposition question session in Parliament on 7 October? With the significance of the proposed welfare changes, some MPs may seek updates on the government's PIP reform plans during that session. It will be interesting to see if your MP raises any of your concerns. You can check if your MP is scheduled to speak, as their name will be listed on the parliamentary website three days before. There is a link address in my earlier post.

    Any changes to PIP and welfare legislation won’t happen in the next few weeks. The process for altering these laws is detailed and lengthy. After the government proposes and drafts new regulations, they are examined by Parliament, involving debates and votes in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords, often with multiple rounds of amendments. Only after receiving Royal Assent does the legislation become law.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,670 Championing

    Universal credit took 11 years to get to this current stage and PIP to DLA 10 years and is on pause for now.

    So going by the procedures MW123s has stated above which also vary on time (the more controversial the longer) this is because the house of lords in partiycan be very compassionate and can delay things up to a year, then their will be amendments, and even after royal accent trials, stages.

    There's what 8 weeks nearly till the budget.

    Then any announcements of any kind that involve the law changing will be slow. Obviously I'm not an expert but anything that gets to the stage it reaches your letterbox and life probably won't even be in this parliament.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,670 Championing

    You're welcome.

    Sorry about typos I type too fast and often hit the wrong letters!

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    Oh OK I will look at your post o know I don't understand it all

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 861 Championing
    edited September 6

    Catherine, I hope this is simpler for you. I was notsurprised by your MP’s reply. They’re careful about sharing details, especially about future changes to welfare rules, because their views are shared in Parliament before being communicated to their constituents.

    At 2:30 pm on the 7 October Liz Kendall will be answering questions in Parliament. MPs including your own MP in view of your email might ask her about the proposed PIP and welfare reforms. See link.https://whatson.parliament.uk/event/cal48639

    My last paragraph explains what needs to happen before any welfare reforms can come into effect. Please check Nightcity's reply it took 11 years for the changes to Universal Credit.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,793 Championing

    Oh god I'm so dyslexic surprised anyone understands my writing