lcwra -pip

garyaye123
garyaye123 Online Community Member Posts: 14 Listener
edited January 4 in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA

Hi have been turned down for pip again i peeled and only got 6 points i get lcwra because of mental and physical problems but jus cant see why i cant get help with pip i know people who are on it and they are a lot younger and fitter than me im 57 now living on my own for a year after split with wife still got bills to pay like everyone else worked all my life never had to claim ever now i need help just cant get anywhere

thanks gary

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  • cheles99
    cheles99 Online Community Member Posts: 20 Contributor

    try citizen advice they help you fill in form also its not the illness its how it effects your daily life tell them you want a mandatory reconsideration

  • teuchterlass
    teuchterlass Online Community Member Posts: 61 Empowering

    Did you get help to fill in the forms.

    I feel the correct use of words in the way they believe we should express ourselves is pretty difficult - did you get help from CAN, Scope, Social work or some professional help.

    I used to help folk fill similar forms to claim allowances, one positive word and it was marked down.

    Recently friend with 4 brain injuries amongst many health problems, advised her how to complete forms, she kept writing I can do this (even if she managed once out of 50 times). Refused, appeal refused, ended up in front of judge, Dr and DWP for assessment - history of very senior health worker, has forced herself and due to knowledge of working in the environment for years how to push herself for improvements. They saw how positive, how determined to improve and check she was always continuing to improve. She wrote the forms as she would be giving report on patients, always positive when it should have been negative wording.

    Wording was everything, worth finding who is best to help fill in forms.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,242 Championing

    How far has the appeal gone?

  • garyaye123
    garyaye123 Online Community Member Posts: 14 Listener

    What do you mean how far as it gone ??

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,242 Championing
    edited January 3

    There are two stages, Mandatory Reconsideration with DWP and a hearing with an independent appeal tribunal.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/appeals/

  • garyaye123
    garyaye123 Online Community Member Posts: 14 Listener

    oh sorry is was a mandatory

    reconsideration

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 5,242 Championing

    Okay, it's very unusual for DWP to change the decision at MR.

    Appeal tribunals have a much higher success rate.

    I'd strongly recommend seeking local help to support you through the next stage

    https://advicelocal.uk/welfare-benefits

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/962623#Comment_962623

    Only 26% of MR decisions change in the claimants favour so I'm not surprised the decision remained the same.

    There's about 69% chance of success at Tribunal stage providing you either appear in person or have a telephone/video hearing.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/appeals/apply-to-tribunal/

  • MCMikey
    MCMikey Online Community Member Posts: 21 Contributor

    At my mandatory reconsideration, I included a two-page letter with extra details about my condition to support my case. It seemed clear from their reply that they either hadn't read my letter or couldn't be bothered to reply to any of the points I'd raised as their reply was a single short paragraph standard answer. The welfare officer who later supported my case said this often occurs and is simply designed to put people off with the hope that people will not pursue any further. I'm sure this was helpful at my later tribunal court case when I asked the court (my welfare officer did this on my behalf) to consider these points on the letter which were not addressed earlier.

    I believe the main factor which got me my PIP was the independent doctor assigned by the court to look at my case and who was present at the court hearing. However, the welfare officer who supported me said that in his opinion of previous cases the independent doctor and indeed the judge on the day to some extent may look favorably on a particular case, or may not. In effect it's somewhat the luck of the draw. I know this doesn't sound right and you'd think it would be a level playing field, but people aren't machines.

    Conclusion, don't give up. Use the internet to your advantage, do your research, look for previous case law (i.e. examples of cases that have won and appeal), get an advocate (a welfare officer or similar who should help with the wording and finding case law anyway).

  • teuchterlass
    teuchterlass Online Community Member Posts: 61 Empowering

    Yes you have to do your research and be prepared to fight and get as much help as you possibly can to help you fight all the steps you have to take to get there

    Well done you xx

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