March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)
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Oh yes I watched The last voyage of the Demeter was good waited ages for salems lot to go down was so disappointed as I watched original hundreds of times there a new dracula been made with reeves can't spell his first name I was watching hellraiser the other day still love them and nightmare on elm street people say why don't you watch a comedy or romance film no way
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Let's keep this discussion on track please folks. 😆
(I'm totally ok with one of you creating a new film discussion though!)
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I’ve been asked why don’t I watch something uplifting 😂 I just reply zombies are uplifting. Yes I watched the new salems lot and was disappointed but then found the more I watched it the more I liked it . Nothing was going to compare to the original. A new Dracula with Keanu Reeves ? Oh I haven’t heard about that . I’ll have a google x
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what does all this have to do with the thread?
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I know the mind wanders
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A reminder that talk/hope of it only applying to new claims is misplaced. We should all be protesting against these proposals whether they are likely to affect us personally or not.
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That's very true
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100 percent are you going to zoom meeting tomorrow ellen clifford
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I agree how do we go about it
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Echoed. I am very concerned for the young people I know who are leaving special education with autism couple with severe learning difficulties including Down Syndrome.
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These cuts are they happening straight away or do they have to go through parliament etc. Will court cases halt this if people or organisations contest this
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So those of us that yet to migrate over to uc , our money will be reduced is that what it means .
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does anyone actually know if these are the so called cuts that labour want to implement or the cuts that the conservatives would have wanted if still in power and have been leaked
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Good God! That list of changes to benefits for disabled people, as leaked by ITV looks like some poisoned wishlist of a hateful individual... truly disgusting! Yet not surprising... 🙄
I very rarely ever post on scope, despite following the site but my goodness this has me riled up!
Ellen Clifford's win at the high court really does appear to have rubbed them the wrong way hasn't it? Does anyone know the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over, over and over again desperately trying for a different result... this goverment has failed within its first 7 months, everywhere you look people are angry & peed off... oh but don't be fooled though - they'll have some sweeties or crumbs if you prefer for poors just in time for the next election... honestly they are such a poor Cameron/Osborne tribute act it's just pathetic! 😠 and no I didn't vote for them, I could see that evil witch kendall for what she is from a mile away! Aka a TORY, same with REEVES... just incompetence personified. Both positively vile individuals, ghouls of an out of date system that has failed our country time and again.
Newsflash for our political class *** the disabled community are HUMAN BEINGS with rights & we will NOT be silenced anymore! ***
You **** up the economy and look for scape goats, thinking - "yeah just take from the disabled, again lol! Har har harrrr - more champagne Clement harr harr"
GET YOURSELVES TO ****!
There I feel better now, hugs to everyone ☺️
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I’ve been mulling this over since it came out last night . I’m a carer for my husband who has a horrific motorbike accident ten months ago where he had a one in three chance of survival and is still on an extremely long road to recovery . We got told by the physio the other day that he is only the equivalent of the letter E in the word recovery.
He will never fully recover as recently diagnosed with permanent neuropathy in his feet .if the government are intending on reducing cuts by next April or whenever it is,given that the NHS is so overstretched and just one of many appointments, whether that’s for physio, OH, consultants etc are taking months , if not longer, how the hell can they assume my husband , who could go back to work maybe part time at some point in about 18 months (that’s what we are hoping for ) be in a fit state to go back to work in a year ?
I am using my husband as an example but of course there are millions of you all out there .
Secondly, businesses have to insure employees. No insurance company would insure a disabled person for risk of injury etc so how will that work out ? If the disabled person fell whilst at work without the appropriate insurance , the the courts would be busy .
The fact that this was leaked last night was so horrific . I have PTSD following my husbands accident and I completely lost it .I hope that this will have to go through stages as others have said , but for now and whilst it is really hard, don’t be like I was last night. Keep strong . This is a fantastic community and really supportive of each other .
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Yes, well said, It's like living in some weird paralell universe ruled by inept bullies, with Starmer The Charmer the evil overlord, and Reeves & kendall the ugly sisters or witches, casying evil spells around their cauldrons. You can hear them now cackling and laughing about their new plans to destroy , humiliate, and kill off as many sick/disabled as possible. I honestly just try to laugh at them as much as possible, I agree with you the the Ellen Clifford case really annoyed them and this is vengeance for them losing the court case. They behave like little children throwing their toys out of the pram.
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I totally agree . How backwards as a country would we be going if ppl were not supported if they became sick or disabled . Anyone healthy who thinks this is all ok should remember anyone can suddenly get a life changing condition.
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I haven't really been keeping up with the latest news until today, as I've spent the last month dealing with a work restructure in which my job was at risk. Ironic, isn't it…they want disabled people in work, at the same time they make cuts which put disabled people with jobs at risk of being made redundant. Under Cameron the exact same thing happened and I lost my job then. Thankfully this was a better outcome, but it means I'm not up to date with the other existential threat you guys have been discussing.
I don't think it matters what government is in power, welfare and disabled people in particular are easy targets.
I don't claim ESA but I don't understand how you are going to incentivise someone to try and work when so many workplaces are not well adjusted or even willing to make adjustments. I am really lucky in that my manager is a absolute hero who fought tooth and nail to keep all of her team in jobs (and won) this past month (I am not the only ND member of staff working in the department, and we all still have jobs as of yesterday).
Having always been on the "I can work, I'm trying to work, please employ me" side of the equation, it's hard to get and keep a job when you're disabled, unless the workplace mindset is also right. The reliance on interviews is a massive boundary for some, building accessibility for others, internalised ableism and ableist structures are still a problem. Until they change those things in the actual workplaces, then all they are doing is punishing people who are already being punished by the system.
For the people who absolutely can't work, cutting the money is an equality issue, I'm sure someone would take that to court if it turns out to be true. Govt have to have a safety net for those people, it's ridiculous not to.
My personal concern is around PIP, as it's a component of my independence. Having to go through appeal the last time definitely left trauma, it also impeded my employability in the field I wanted to go into, because it took up time I should have been doing other things to build what would have been a portfolio. Between that, and Cameron, and the recent restructure, it feels more to me like the govt are determined to make me unemployed. It's a fair cheek of them to then wax lyrical about the wonders of disabled people being in work.
Side-note, but I think if Scope and other disabled charities had included disabled people already in work in their previous statements, it would have been less easy for the govt to target those unable to work. By not mentioning us and the fact we are defying all the odds to be in employment, they're just reinforcing the idea that disabled people are taking benefits because they don't want to work. In reality, disabled people on benefits are in work, looking for (but being prevented from being in) work, or unable to work. You can't change that situation by making cuts. You can only change it by protecting the first group's jobs, enabling the second group and supporting the third group to live dignified lives without constant worry or harassment.
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A little bit of (maybe) good news. Just listened to a Radio 4 interview with John McDonnell Labour MP for Hayes & Harlingtonand Former Shadow Chancellor.
He says "IAm Urging Labour Cabinet Members To Stand Up To The Treasury To Prevent It Forcing Through Cuts In Benefit Payments To DisabledPeople. I Am Desperately Worried About The Harm & Suffering To Be Inflicted On The Poorest"
He made his comments on X.
You can find theinterview on bbc.co.uk/sounds – Radio 4 Mar 2025 (I think you willhave to join BBC Sounds). Just a quick breakdown – he thinks Kendall has some good idea’sabout reforming the Benefits System but Reeves is making a bigmistake. While I know we all know this, John McDonnell has a greatdeal of influence in the Labour Party and he could influence othermembers.
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