March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 180 Empowering

    Grateful that my MP wasn’t on that list gives me a slight glimmer of hope considering the level of poverty where I live. It doesn’t sound too bad on paper but in practice 6 billion worth of cuts isn’t conducive to breaking down the barriers to work so the argument isn’t cohesive, and strikes me as this has come from a whip rather than off their own backs. Very small number of MPs too.
    I do see the irony in calling it a ‘moral duty’ or ‘moral mission’ though and then criticising the Tories because that’s the exact language Rishi Sunak was using when he threatened the disabled and sick in 2023.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,375 Championing

    I just watched GB news with Jacob rees mogg hosting. The one for the cuts was this Labour bloke and the one who said they shouldn't take disabled people money away was former Tory mp John Redwood. The Labour one said its wrong that we are given cash .

  • JonnycJonny
    JonnycJonny Scope Member Posts: 253 Empowering

    The Guardian claim Keir Starmer has just just met with senior Cabinet ministers this evening to discuss PIP.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,375 Championing

    Just listened to it , shows how heartless these cretins are

  • evonneo
    evonneo Online Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor

    Starmer is showing his Marxism in full flow which is sicken to show. https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1899213544186355770?t=W3TFXRQRaDBCPPmzOqBlxg&s=19

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,826 Championing

    Thank you so much.

    I really appreciate that.

    I have just watched it and it has given me renewed hope.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 792 Championing

    I have heard the 'those who can't work wont be made to' quite a lot, but I don't find it reassuring at all, as it's someone somewhere who decides whether you're fit for work or not, so genuinely not being fit for work is no guarantee that things will be okay for you, and like you said they like to move the goal posts.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 792 Championing

    If there's a giant protest people should hold up giant placards, one of Starver, one of Freeze Reeves, and one of Liz Killall, made to look like devils, they could have horns coming out of their heads and glowing red eyes, because they truly are evil monsters.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,826 Championing
  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 414 Pioneering

    A commentator on Sky press preview was saying about the meeting which was held. Apparently one of Keir Starmer's MP's got at him about PIP and how he has a disabled daughter.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,344 Championing
    edited March 2025

    From "The Financial Times" 11th March.

    Talk of means-testing PIP, which would removed claimants earning a good salary and anyone with savings even if they have no income.

    Apparent goal of removing 40% claimants and attack on MH makes me wonder whether they are looking at the points system.

    https://www.ft.com/content/daabf042-b1db-4366-b5ca-17e4e3ef244e

    Edit: Sorry folks, I managed to skim the article but the paywall has gone up.

  • Stuartcarol68
    Stuartcarol68 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    hi, I’m carolann

    I’m a pensioner who receives pip for multiple illnesses.

    I’m worried sick I get my pip support taken away.

    I’ve not heard anything regarding pensioners who receive pip.

    What will happen to us as we can’t go back to the work place.

    Anyone got any thoughts.

    Thanks.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    the link wouldn’t let me read it without subscribing. Could you give a brief summary please ?

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,344 Championing

    I managed to bypass the paywall again and take a few shots.

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    I don't think I've post in the right order. Sorry. But you'll get the idea. Again, PIP is linked to work.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,344 Championing

    Hi @carolann I don't know but people of pension age were left alone when DLA was abolished in favour of PIP. It's people of working age they're targeting.

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 180 Empowering

    If I hear the phrase ‘it’s in the name the party of work’ one more time I’m going to scream. I’m so fed up with them all I had a dream I poured Nando’s hot sauce all over liz Kendall’s head. What a duplicitous lying awful evil man Starmer has turned out to be. Hopefully the labour MPs actually have a backbone and stand up to this as it’s going to make the problem worse and push the cost of pip onto healthcare when people live in poverty.

  • Stuartcarol68
    Stuartcarol68 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener

    thank you for your reply, hopefully it will be the same.

    It’s caused so much distress, already reeling the amount of tax they are taking 25/26 on just my pension just because I’ve given some of my allowance to my husband, they’ve wiped out his one small private pension.

    My pension is my only income, I’m worried sick they take my lifeline away.

    Will have to wait and see but the stress is causing severe mental health problems.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing

    thank you , that’s very interesting. If I read correctly it seems according to this it’s for new claimants especially those with MH and possibly restricting to UC LCWRA . Or have I read that wrong ?

  • tomwalker
    tomwalker Online Community Member Posts: 66 Contributor

    The government have announced huge cuts and the consultation paper is not out yet even..some much for putting disabled people at the heart of the Policy..in my view what this is is a grab of disabled money under cover of helping them into work...they can't get 1.5 million ordinary folk a job so it's a nice idea but we all know there's no social care or medical help and not enough decent jobs...they are looking for a cash grab

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    This is the Joseph Rowntree foundation take on it.. sorry if it’s being posted before I’m a new member. It suggests where they might make cuts if you scroll down article

    https://www.jrf.org.uk/news/factsheet-health-related-benefit-cuts

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