Upcoming changes to benefits
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Hi everyone, I’ve just been reading this. I’ve noticed a few citizens advice pages on social media have confirmed this too.
What does this mean. Does it mean from April everyone on UC regardless of disability or not will have to upload things like bank statements every 6 months and will everyone be questioned on their claim?
https://www.mylondon.news/news/cost-of-living/dwp-trial-universal-credit-rule-31162736?utm_source=mynewsassistant.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=embedded_search_item_mobile
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Since being diagnosed (online) with autism later in life in 2021, living 24 years in the U.K. originally from Rural Ireland, I’ve had no-post diagnosis assessment which would have been the bridge to accessing appropriate post-diagnosis adult autism support at age 54 now (there is none) and I still don’t know what my support needs are - the harsh reality is that mental health and hidden disabilities are not considered real and are not taken seriously, no-one is interested, it’s just assumed that you are “trying it on” and “attention seeking” or it’s “all imagined” and you are simply told (ordered) to “calm down and be quiet” and “stop talking nonsense” because there is a point-blank refusal to understand - and all of this in a (supposedly) compassionate and caring, civilised society, underpinned by Christian moral principles (I’m a traditional Irish Catholic myself) - attacking the most vulnerable in our society is totally ethically and morally unacceptable and it is very clear that there are other very sinister agendas behind this - it’s also very clear that for those in positions of power, arrogance and hypocrisy is a very dangerous mix indeed - aside from the “elected” politicians, it’s really time to look at the (real) role that the civil service and senior civil servants have played in all of this
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Does anyone think theres a bit of an ulterior motive here? Let's just say labour are playing a bit here. Put it out there that they're going to absolutely stuff disabled people, even go on about cutting pip and lcwra. Then they can alter it later on, saying theyve listened to disabled people, taking on board concerns etc and then relaxing ( a bit) these absurd plans. Then they get made to look like the do actually care, thus likely pleased people equal more votes. A con basically. Im not so sure this is their plan, but I definitely wouldn't rule it out.
They didnt need to cause so much distress with any of this from the start though.
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I could be wrong but I believe that this is just a prompt for people to confirm if there’s been any changes of income, starting a job or any other changes. To me it reads that it’ll be on the to do list as a prompt to confirm every 6 months that nothing has changed rather than leaving it to people to report a change themselves. I’m not 100% sure though as like everything with this government it’s all vague
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I have just email verses arthritis and asked them to jump on board with the campaign to .
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I’d be fine with that. Just don’t want to be having to send in bank statements every 6 months as part of this new rule if it’s true.
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Another bugbear is that surely Labour and the Media know how much all the speculation, all the demonising is causing terrible worry and further hightening anxieties onto people?
I'll never look at them in the same way after this saga. Starmer calls the welfare budget "indefensible" whilst he has a special act created by Cameron and Clegg in 2013 meaning he doesn't pay tax on his gold plated CPS pension whilst claiming expenses all paid for by the taxpayers by the way.
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Labour not happy about all the WCA deferrals.
Sir Keir responded that the Conservatives had "locked millions out of work
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Well notice that Keir keeps saying for the "working people", to him everyone else isnt in the picture when it comes to decisions. He clearly only thinks the needs of working people matter.
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@kittenface19 You are NOT a burden,none of us are, I use to think I was too.
Then one day I said why do I think this way? I'm of value to my family and that's all that matters.
We didn't chose this life, we didn't ask to be born in this time frame or to be sick and disabled. This is not our fault... NONE of it.
All we are trying to do is get one day by the next, we don't live ,we merely exist. My health's gone south rapidly,I've 13 conditions, new one cropped up two years ago and only got diagnosed last week after invasive tests and scans bloods etc. Part of my new problems Stress, no prizes for guessing why. Dreading the moves you uc,then I've a pip review if not this yr then def next. Had to calm myself down from my intrusive thoughts as it was exacerbating at least four of my conditions, I just had to try and get headspace or else I'd go under. It hasn't been easy for any of us,and the public think we get it easy. What a joke. There's not enough money they could throw at us to put up with the shizz we do.
Head up,chin up, be kind to yourself. Namaste. 🕉
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they haven’t said much about DLA so anybody got any idea if they are going to do anything with it.You surely can’t just kick people off or is it just freezing it
Take years for anything to get implemented anyway surely?
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Kendall has always been a "benefits are too soft" person. She looked quite angry that someone dared to ask the question. How dare they.
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Dr Watts is wonderful. Her username is @ shrinkatlarge for anyone wondering. I’d really recommend looking at her tweets
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I’m not on X . Do they have an opinion on the welfare reforms ?
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aren’t we all vulnerable though? What’s their definition of vulnerable ?
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love crace too
Crossing fingers for a Jonathan pie video rant 😆
Oh and a politicsjoe mash up video 🤣💖
those would be the early signs of this going full blown public scandal (all exposure is got exposure as far as our community is concerned - the more people who start talking to one another hopefully the more they start asking the questions we’ve been begging them to ask for months)2 -
the cost savings (vague and uncertain as they are) are an inevitable consequence of what I warned when DLA was replaced by PIP - or when the identifying word‘DISABILITY’ was expunged and Alowance replaced with payment - words reflect the underlying language shift in philosophy and meaning and led and leads to justification of policy change.
Disability benefits have been used since the Thatcher years to cover unemployed people without then having them listed as unemployed or creating a system that actually helps and supports people into or back into work.We have aided this mess by being too broad and loose in the use of the term disability which is (or should be) more closely defined and nothing to do with whether or not you can work - helping people to work if they have access to work or social disadvantages or face barriers and discrimination if they are neurodiverse is a role that government and society should have a robust and supported system in place which isn’t just about money but one to one support, education and training for both employers as well as employees.
The problem has arisen because many disabled people would be part of such a scheme but that should have nothing to do with providing disabled people with the ‘allowance’ to meet the costs of having severe physical or cognitive long standing impairments.
we have lumped all uni one basket and so end up with a mess. I could write teams on both how we define disability and how our failure to Bute that bullet or even engage in it for fear of not being inclusive has led to this situation. Of course inclusion doesn’t mean we are all disabled - it means we all need different supper and as such PIP is just a stupid,complex, adversarial and stressful benefit which should actually probably be two separate types of benefit one of which wo you of more closely resemble the early days and principles behind the iris DLA. The other would be a more proactive and well resourced system to help people get appropriate work or flexible employment that is appropriate and give employers the facilities and eduction to employ people - even the old quota system has merit compared with todays messy hotch potch.
so much to say and having been disable almost all my life and been a CEO of a national charity, worked setting up counselling service for disabled people working with central government and LA etc I am only too aware of the inability for those in government to admit sometimes they just don’t understand what they are doing and also sometimes us as disabled people don’t help by not biting the bullet and working out what we mean by ‘I am a disabled person’ if we did and were clear and not trying to be all things to all people we could present a united and clear front to defend ourselves from being scapegoated as The Problem and too costly to support1 -
My thoughts exactly
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From "The I" this evening:
Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmer are facing pressure to water down cuts to disability benefits amid pressure from unhappy Labour MPs.
The Government is understood to want to avoid a repeat of the controversy following the cuts to the winter fuel payment which saw months of hostile headlines and commentary from upset Labour MPs.
The Prime Minister’s team spent Wednesday in discussions with would-be Labour rebels on the cuts as No 10 negotiated the contents of the draft policy discussion paper due next week.
Anxious Labour MPs were brought in to Downing Street in batches to speak to Starmer’s political director Claire Reynolds alongside special advisers who are expert in welfare policy, with No 10 in “listening” mode.
One MP who was invited into No 10 said they felt the Government was “panicking” and could be forced into making “small” changes to the policy.
Another said: “They can’t just introduce cuts to PIP (personal independence payments) and not expect a backlash. They’re going to have to back down”
MPs said the meeting considered lots of data explaining the status of the extent of the challenge with the rising welfare bill, but with “no discussion or acknowledgment of any of the proposals” in the Green Paper.
The Chancellor is expected to announce cuts to the welfare budget during her Spring Statement on 26 March as she seeks to plug an estimated £11.5bn hole in her finances and meet her fiscal rules.
These state daily expenditure must be met from taxation rather than borrowing. But with her £9.9bn headroom from October’s Budget thought to have been wiped out and some economists estimating it is now minus £1.6bn she is faced with having to raise taxes or make cuts.
Her plans are thought to include cutting sickness and disability benefits in order to persuade people back to work – with benefits increasing for those who are fit to work, and decreasing for those deemed unfit.
But the plans are the subject of a backlash from Labour MPs. The i Paper understands at the meetings backbenchers were pushing for mitigations for the most vulnerable disabled people as the Government mulls reforms to the PIP.
The Office for Budget Responsibility forecast at the time of October’s Budget that spending on health and disability benefits would rise from £64.7bn in 203-24 to an estimated £100.7bn by 2030.
One insider characterised the series of meetings as “describing the landscape” to Labour MPs rather than alighting on any areas of compromise.
No details will be made available to backbenchers before the Cabinet is made aware of the Government’s final plans, a senior source said.
PIP is designed to help people with extra costs incurred by their disability, whether they are working or not.
The changes will include making it harder to qualify by changing the criteria assessors used to determine if an applicant is eligible for the benefit.
Labour MPs are fighting to secure safeguards to the plans which are due to be announced early next week.
Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall had been due to set out plans this week, but insiders were taken aback by the strength of feeling on the Labour benches and have sought to better explain the Government’s thinking.
‘We’re called the Labour Party, for goodness sake’
The row spilled into Prime Minister’s Questions in the House of Commons on Wednesday.
Asked by Labour’s John Slinger how he would fix “a broken welfare system” while protecting the most vulnerable, Starmer replied: “We inherited a system which was broken, which is indefensible economically and morally, and we must and we will reform it.
“We will have clear principles: we will protect those who need protecting. We will also support those who can work back to work. But Labour is the party of work, we are also the party of equality and fairness.”
Accusing the Tories of leaving behind a “lost generation” with one in eight young people not in education, employment or training, Starmer went on to reject calls from MP Richard Burgon, a key figure on the party’s left, for a wealth tax.
There is some exasperation at the calls, with one Government insider arguing there is a moral case for getting people into work. “We’re called the Labour Party for goodness’ sake,” they told The i Paper.
No decisions have yet been finalised on the contents of the Green Paper next week, with Kendall also undertaking meetings with would-be rebels.
The Government is also understood to be preparing to announce plans to freeze PIP which currently rises each year with inflation.
Changing the automatic rating for PIP is likely to require new legislation which could pose a problem for No 10 if a Commons vote was required, paving the way for potential delay and parliamentary rebellions.
The i Paper understands No 10 is now working to address backbench concerns by the deadline of next week, with meetings in Downing Street likely to carry on into Thursday. Kendall is also in discussions with Labour MPs about the changes.
There is also concern at the top of Government that the issue doesn’t become “another winter fuel” issue with which voters can bash their MPs.
Meanwhile, 16 major charities – including the Trussell Trust, Scope, and Mind – wrote to the Government warning that benefit cuts would have a “catastrophic impact on disabled people up and down the country” and claimed that as many as 700,000 more disabled households could be pushed into poverty because of the plans.
Helen Whately, shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, said: “Labour came into office with no plan to get the welfare bill down, and taxpayers have spent £2.5bn so far waiting for them to come up with one.
“Sickness benefits are forecast to cost £100bn by 2030. We can’t afford that – nor is it right for so many people to be relying on the state. The country needs everyone who can work, to work.
“But instead of tackling this problem, Labour are talking about freezing benefits for disabled people instead. That is no substitute for proper welfare reform and does nothing to get people off benefits into work.”
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I physically can’t work, so let me get this straight - If someone ‘can’ work they’ll actually get paid more than someone who is actually unable to work & would therefore (you would assume at least…) need it more?! Am I missing something here?
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