Upcoming changes to benefits
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None of us know what the descriptors will be aimed at until we get official confirmation.
Until then it is speculation.
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Thing is they can't bar people with mental illnesses to claim incapacity benefits, I think it will be illegal to do so and ironically Labour brought forward the Equality Act 2010 before the Tories passed it.
It says it on the government's own website.
"A mental health condition is considered a disability if it has a long-term effect on your normal day-to-day activity. This is defined under the Equality Act 2010.
Your condition is ‘long term’ if it lasts, or is likely to last, 12 months.
‘Normal day-to-day activity’ is defined as something you do regularly in a normal day. This includes things like using a computer, working set times or interacting with people."
All they can do is further scrutinize as in more evidence, most likely talking to our GP discussing length of issue, whether the issue can be recoverable.
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the kicker:
The biggest pressure crippler for disabled even thinking out work or training
The dwp themselves
(The pressure from them increases every single year and even the normal Joe would have trouble double tasking the daily stress the dwp embeds in all claimants) and then finding the energy to navigate most jobs (esp those that make no effect to adapt or co workers of a certain though family)…………………..the public just don’t realise how much more double, even triple tasking is expected of disabled ppl in daily life)
I wish universal basic income could be trialled with lcwra claimants in a small area of the country - they’d really have nothing to lose (they’d initially save job centre resources and money on assessments/tribunals - but if you take the stresses of the hovering dwp away how many disabled (without that pressure anymore) would recover their MH enough to try work or enter training courses/education and actually succeed (if ubi is added to income then ni and tax would be payable earlier and the gov could start getting their money)What’s the saying - you got to spend money to make money
Labour are daft if they don’t launch a 1-2 year trial on something like that imo8 -
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Conservative politicians of all stripes (and Labour is run by Tories at this point) have used the Conservative press as a testing ground to guage public backlash to their plans for a long time. These aren't leaks. They're calculated political moves with their political friends.
They've done this with other policies (ie. Brexit, anti-trans hatred, anti-protest laws, Partygate). They'll do it again.
These claims they may "water down" these plans are also part of their strategy. It's entirely possible that these leaks are made up to quell public concern, so people don't think their plans to kill disabled people won't be as bad.
Still, if these cuts do go ahead, disabled people and their allies (who can) need to take to the streets consistently to oppose these cuts. This is how disabled people, alongside all other marginalised groups, got legal protections in the first place.
Responding to consultations, signing petitions and writing letters to MPs is worse than nothing at this point.
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Readable if read via private browser tab
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25002239.keir-starmer-defends-substantial-dwp-welfare-cuts-pmqs/
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What about ECHR, can't someone contact them. It's our human rights that's being compromise here, they help criminals human rights but what about us
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They would be better off going back to the original payments of £686. Then no one overall loses out and everyone bar the people on SDP wont lose anymore.
They cause this bloody mess why on earth month people just to whip it away.
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I wonder if anyone is in a similar situation to me? I applied for PIP in June of last year as I was in the midst of a mental health crisis. I had my telephone interview in October and received a letter on the 25th October to let me know that they had all the information that they needed and I should hear something in seven to eight weeks. Christmas and New Year came and went and the charity which is supporting me advised me to give the PIP team a call.
I rang and spoke to a really helpful man who told me that they did not have some information following the phone interview and so there had been a delay but they now had the information that they needed and it was with the team who made the decisions and I should have a response within four to five weeks. That period has come and gone but I didn't want to rock the boat so I waited until today to call them.
Today I was told that they had needed more information and were waiting for information that they had requested from my doctors surgery. I asked if I should ring my doctors and see what was causing the hold up but was told not to. If they hadn't had a response by the 26th March it would go to a team which look at claims which are overdue for consideration so I should hear something after then. Now considering all the rumours about PIP, I find myself wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing and if this linked to the upcoming changes to disability benefits or if I am just, as usual, the unlucky one in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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I apologise for the negativelyBut ‘a small group of the most disabled’ most likely won’t include many of us here with the ability to type audible posts on a forum.
This is always a concession labour would have to include as including every single lcwra claimant would be ludicrous and deep down they know this.
articles like this are designed to forcely relax ppl and make ppl think they are getting a new concession of something already intended to be givenRead between the lines and don’t fall for it (and hopefully labour mps on the fence won’t use it to justify gov support (if the green paper is as bad as what’s been leaked of cause - hard to not jump the gun anger wise)
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we are all vulnerable otherwise we wouldn’t be long term sick or disabled. To choose one sick person over another is surely discrimination
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It is , but you know how twisted they are. This is Rachel reeves fault her mess up the economy. Honestly can't she see whats shes doingwith business shutting and laying people off.
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Under the Tories it seemed to me that around every 3 months there was an announcement and scaremongering, leaks to the press, threats of cuts, stoking prejudice against people. It’s absolutely ruinous to mental health, regardless if that’s a primary health problem or not. Impossible to focus on life and take care of oneself with a constant threat of a some level of existence to be taken away.
If this is some testing of waters by Labour they’ve eclipsed the Cons. It is wholly unacceptable what’s happened these last few weeks. In other environments this is a very serious concern and constitutes bullying and harassment. It’s wholly unacceptable and warrants legal investigation, regardless if they push on or back track.
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Hi snuggles , what’s your thoughts on all this ? All I keep reading is how much we will have our money cut by and harder pip as though it’s fact but Noah and a different bias say the opposite. I will have to listen to Noah again tomorrow when I’m less fatigued but I’m sure he said pip is not changing and if it were it would take years . Lcwra he didn’t think was being cut but basic rate rising but not at the expense of lcwra. They both seemed the complete opposite of msm and itv. I’m so confused .
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Ok i really don't understand a lot of whats going on especially with my brain fog but would some of their press interviews & paper reports class as harrasment or hate crimes or something like that? Can they be reported?
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Good grief!
Is this Marcus bloke a Liebour MP ?
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/12/there-is-no-moral-case-labour-divided-over-prospect-of-benefit-cuts
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Press text, should open in Google.
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I’m really confused as I’ve watched YouTube channels that have said the opposite to what is in the msm. I know no one knows completely what their plans are but I’m hearing two different ends of the spectrum. And they seem knowledgeable channels too as I watch mostly YouTube so I know there are some that aren’t so reputable.
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