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Son moved out but wants to move back in

DollyDolly29
DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
in Benefits and financial support
Hello my son moved out in November , but wants to move back in will i get the money back for 3 bedroom rate for him if he moves in? 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,593 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 1
    If you were claiming for 3 bedrooms before your son moved out then yes you'll be entitled to an extra room if he moves back in.
    If your son is an adult and you're the only adult in the house at the moment, you'll lose the single person discount for your council tax. Unless your son is a student.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    If you were claiming for 3 bedrooms before your son moved out then yes you'll be entitled to an extra room if he moves back in.
    If your son is an adult and you're the only adult in the house at the moment, you'll lose the single person discount for your council tax. Unless your son is a student.
    Thank you for this info poppy

    do i need to provide anything to them once change is made 

    kind regards x
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 1
    What benefits are you receiving?
    How old is your son?
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    calcotti said:
    What benefits are you receiving?
    How old is your son?
    Recieving , HB , and uc 

    My son is 23 he wants to move back in as he likes home comforts haha and he don’t like living on his own 
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    Would I need to provide anything when I update that he’s moved back in 

    kind regards 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 1
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    What benefits are you receiving?
    How old is your son?
    Recieving , HB , and uc 
    My son is 23 ..
    Do you mean that you are getting the housing element of UC? HB is a different benefit.

    Is he a student, in work or claiming benefits?
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    calcotti said:
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    What benefits are you receiving?
    How old is your son?
    Recieving , HB , and uc 
    My son is 23 ..
    Do you mean that you are getting the housing element of UC? HB is a different benefit.

    Is he a student, in work or claiming benefits?
    That’s correct housing element of uc , 

    He’s in work , 

    so would I need to contact the council and get the 3 bedroom rate back? 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 1
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    What benefits are you receiving?
    How old is your son?
    Recieving , HB , and uc 
    My son is 23 ..
    Do you mean that you are getting the housing element of UC? HB is a different benefit.

    Is he a student, in work or claiming benefits?
    That’s correct housing element of uc , 

    He’s in work , 

    so would I need to contact the council and get the 3 bedroom rate back? 
    If you currently the single person discount you need to contact the council tax department.

    The bedroom allowance for the housing element has got nothing to do with the council. You need to use your UC journal to report a change of circumstances to people who live with you. You will then be entitled to an additional bedroom but there will also be a non dependant deduction from the housing element because your son is expected to make a contribution.
    https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/universal_credit_housing_cost_contributions
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,593 Disability Gamechanger
    You will need to report a change of circumstances for UC if he moves back with you and tell them he's now living with you. You would be entitled to the extra bedroom but because he's over the age of 21 and he's working there will be a non dependant deduction of £77.87/month. Unless he's claiming either PIP daily living or DLA mid/high rate care for himself.

    Or you're either claiming PIP daily living or DLA mid/high rate care for yourself and then there won't be any non dependant deductions.https://england.shelter.org.uk/professional_resources/legal/benefits/universal_credit/deductions_from_universal_credit_for_non-dependants

    You will also need to report the changes to your local Authority for your council tax reduction too.

    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    You will need to report a change of circumstances for UC if he moves back with you and tell them he's now living with you. You would be entitled to the extra bedroom but because he's over the age of 21 and he's working there will be a non dependant deduction of £77.87/month. Unless he's claiming either PIP daily living or DLA mid/high rate care for himself.

    Or you're either claiming PIP daily living or DLA mid/high rate care for yourself and then there won't be any non dependant deductions.https://england.shelter.org.uk/professional_resources/legal/benefits/universal_credit/deductions_from_universal_credit_for_non-dependants

    You will also need to report the changes to your local Authority for your council tax reduction too.

    Thank you poppy will I need to provide anything to say that he’s moving back in?

    kind regards xx 
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    calcotti said:
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    What benefits are you receiving?
    How old is your son?
    Recieving , HB , and uc 
    My son is 23 ..
    Do you mean that you are getting the housing element of UC? HB is a different benefit.

    Is he a student, in work or claiming benefits?
    That’s correct housing element of uc , 

    He’s in work , 

    so would I need to contact the council and get the 3 bedroom rate back? 
    If you currently the single person discount you need to contact the council tax department.

    The bedroom allowance for the housing element has got nothing to do with the council. You need to use your UC journal to report a change of circumstances to people who live with you. You will then be entitled to an additional bedroom but there will also be a non dependant deduction from the housing element because your son is expected to make a contribution.
    https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/universal_credit_housing_cost_contributions
    Thank you for this ,

    hell be paying normal rent to me which would be £50 

    And would I need to provide anything to them to say that he’s moving back in?


    Kind regards 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,593 Disability Gamechanger
    You won't need to provide anything, just report the changes.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    poppy123456 said:
    You won't need to provide anything, just report the changes.
    Ok thank you for this , was getting myself into a pickle about this. 

    Thank you 😊 
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    And could Someone clarify what the 3 bedroom rate is many thanks 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2
    DollyDolly29 said:
    And could Someone clarify what the 3 bedroom rate is many thanks 
    If you are renting privately you can find the relevant rate here by putting in your post code
    https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Search.aspx

    The help you get will then be deducted by the Housing Cost Contribution as discussed in a previous reply.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected
    calcotti said:
    DollyDolly29 said:
    And could Someone clarify what the 3 bedroom rate is many thanks 
    If you are renting privately you can find the relevant rate here by putting in your post code
    https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Search.aspx

    Thank you for this , 

    how do I update this on change of circumstances I’m not too clever with online things  , and would I need to provide anything ? 
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2
    DollyDolly29 said:
    calcotti said:
    DollyDolly29 said:
    And could Someone clarify what the 3 bedroom rate is many thanks 
    If you are renting privately you can find the relevant rate here by putting in your post code
    https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Search.aspx

    Thank you for this , 

    how do I update this on change of circumstances I’m not too clever with online things  , and would I need to provide anything ? 
    You need to go onto your UC journal and ‘Report a Change’ regarding people who live with you. They will tell you if they need any information but we wouldn’t them to need anything.

    For Council Tax you will need to tell the local authority.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • DollyDolly29
    DollyDolly29 Community member Posts: 57 Connected

    You need to go onto your UC journal and ‘Report a Change’ regarding people who live with you. They will tell you if they need any information but we wouldn’t them to need anything.

    For Council Tax you will need to tell the local authority.
    Thank you for this ,

    what do you mean by “but we wouldn’t them to need anything” sorry to ask but I don’t understand that  ?

    and im at the part where it says Is he now living with me ? Do I put yes or no? 

    It’s all too confusing for me 😵‍💫
    Many thanks 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,593 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2
    DollyDolly29 said:

    You need to go onto your UC journal and ‘Report a Change’ regarding people who live with you. They will tell you if they need any information but we wouldn’t them to need anything.

    For Council Tax you will need to tell the local authority

    and im at the part where it says Is he now living with me ? Do I put yes or no? 

    If your son is now living with you then of course you would answer yes. 
    You only need to report the changes once he’s moved back in. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2
    DollyDolly29 said:, 
    what do you mean by “but we wouldn’t them to need anything” sorry to ask but I don’t understand that  ?
    Sorry, that was a typo, it should say “we wouldn’t expect them to need anything”, which is what you were previously advised.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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