Covid question

Wibbles

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How many UK residents have avoided Covid completely over the last 3 years?
I can't find the stats online
As far as I know - I have not had the virus 

OverlyAnxious

There won't be any precise stats.  Not everyone reported getting Covid.  Many people had Covid without any major symptoms. Others will just have assumed they had a cold or flu and never had a test.

I have also avoided it so far as far as I know (but we're not out of the woods yet!).  Though I live quite an isolated life, and have many OCD cleaning rituals, so would be much less likely to get it than most people.

66Mustang

I have also not (knowingly) had the virus; but I also have OCD and avoidance/cleaning compulsions.

I live in the family home and everyone else in the family has had the virus, some more than once, so I think I did quite well and it perhaps shows the importance of basic hygiene rituals though a study of one doesn't really mean anything!

Biblioklept

I wonder how they could ever accurately get stats on it. My sister works in a care home and had it many times and only knew because of testing positive (they had mandatory twice-weekly tests), she didn't get symptoms at all, same as some of the people she cares for. And others who work there or live there caught it at the same time, so likely the same strain, and were very symptomatic. 

I lead a very isolated life and also have OCD. I stopped buying fresh food during the initial outbreak so when it was delivered I could clean every packet and then leave it for 10 days before using it and still somehow caught Covid multiple times. 

The first time I had symptoms of a bad cold, after that, one time I just had a headache for a few days and tested positive, and a couple of times I've had no symptoms at all.

If someone isn't symptomatic, it's highly unlikely they would think to or regularly test, so there's no real way to know if someone has had it or not. 

I only know because I test regularly, in fact it's sadly become a bit of obsession   

Sandy_123

I caught it once I was expected to die as I have bad lungs. But I'm still here lol, wasn't as bad as I was to understand it would be, even the drs were like you ought to get vaccination. But back to the question, I agree you wont find accurate info on that.

Hannah_Alumni

It would be interesting to see! Like so many have said, I wonder how many people had covid and were asymptomatic. 

Cartini

OverlyAnxious said:

There won't be any precise stats.  Not everyone reported getting Covid.  Many people had Covid without any major symptoms. Others will just have assumed they had a cold or flu and never had a test.

I have also avoided it so far as far as I know (but we're not out of the woods yet!).  Though I live quite an isolated life, and have many OCD cleaning rituals, so would be much less likely to get it than most people.

At the end of November 2019 I was quite ill; dry, rasping cough that went into December, a very strange headache, diarrhea and a temperature.  I can`t remember if I`d lost my taste or sense of smell becuase if I had,  I would have put it down to the "cold".  My neighbour, and other people I work with, all said they were very ill at the same time.  Was it Covid?  I`d put my money on it, but Covid wasn`t "in the spotlight" then, so I`ll never know.........

poppy123456

I’ve never knowingly had Covid and same for my daughter that I live with. 

My other daughter had it a few times but we don’t live together. 

The last time she had it isolating had ended and her employer told her she had to go to work. She was a little under the weather the first time but the other times she was fine. 

WelshBlue

My daughter has had Covid twice, my wife caught it from her and ... my son ... one test said positive another said negative so we're still not sure.  Just sure he's strange

Despite us all staying in the same house and me sleeping in the same bed as my wife, every test was negative for me.

I still maintain Covid took one look at me and thought I've got enough problems ... 

iza

I never had a Covid yet and yes I assumed that Covid was already in the air in November 2019 as my son was very ill like other children from school. Dr said to me that child can feel unwell for about 6 weeks. He siad it is virus but didn't said which one. Remember that virus cannot survive in the air on its own at all. It was be passed from person to person by droplets. So it was already in the air but the outbreak happened later at the beggining of 2020 and please remember UK was one of the last countries to announce lockdown. In my country of origin (Poland) lockdown took place 3 weeks earlier than here in UK.
 

Cartini

tomm said:

 I see many have fallen for the state propaganda and FEAR campaign Asymptomatic  spread was the biggest lie  Remember them telling people to ACT like you have got it,? The RT PCR tool  is NOT a diagnostic test and nor was it ever Scientifically Validated, Making the results unreliable at best , Because the lack of any control group studies meant they had no clue what the false positive rate was , at  the various CT rates used ,IMO Virology is a complete FRAUD

IMO there wasn't any Pandemic , only a CASE demic  Anyhow the WHO has declared the health emergency is over

<sigh> another conspiracy theorist. 

Two of my sisters are in the medical world, one NHS and one in the Canadian equivalent.  They were both at the front of the virus fight, the same fight that you mock with your ignorant opinions, and saw many people die;   those dead were a mixture of patients and friends.  I saw how they looked during that period; they looked dreadful from over work and worry about would it be them next.

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Wibbles

tomm said:

 I see many have fallen for the state propaganda and FEAR campaign Asymptomatic  spread was the biggest lie  Remember them telling people to ACT like you have got it,? The RT PCR tool  is NOT a diagnostic test and nor was it ever Scientifically Validated, Making the results unreliable at best , Because the lack of any control group studies meant they had no clue what the false positive rate was , at  the various CT rates used ,IMO Virology is a complete FRAUD

IMO there wasn't any Pandemic , only a CASE demic  Anyhow the WHO has declared the health emergency is over

You are insane if you believed that covid pandemic is a myth 

How many people did you know who died?

woodbine

We both had it in Jan '22 nothing more than a bad cold really but the 4 weeks after we were really quite ill.

Wibbles

tomm said:

Wibbles said:

tomm said:

 I see many have fallen for the state propaganda and FEAR campaign Asymptomatic  spread was the biggest lie  Remember them telling people to ACT like you have got it,? The RT PCR tool  is NOT a diagnostic test and nor was it ever Scientifically Validated, Making the results unreliable at best , Because the lack of any control group studies meant they had no clue what the false positive rate was , at  the various CT rates used ,IMO Virology is a complete FRAUD

IMO there wasn't any Pandemic , only a CASE demic  Anyhow the WHO has declared the health emergency is over

You are insane if you believed that covid pandemic is a myth 

How many people did you know who died?

NOT 1, But i know several who have died following being injected

how do you know that they died as a dircet result of the jab though ?

Wibbles

tomm said:

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Wibbles said:

tomm said:

 I see many have fallen for the state propaganda and FEAR campaign Asymptomatic  spread was the biggest lie  Remember them telling people to ACT like you have got it,? The RT PCR tool  is NOT a diagnostic test and nor was it ever Scientifically Validated, Making the results unreliable at best , Because the lack of any control group studies meant they had no clue what the false positive rate was , at  the various CT rates used ,IMO Virology is a complete FRAUD

IMO there wasn't any Pandemic , only a CASE demic  Anyhow the WHO has declared the health emergency is over

You are insane if you believed that covid pandemic is a myth 

How many people did you know who died?

NOT 1, But i know several who have died following being injected

how do you know that they died as a dircet result of the jab though ?

The same question could be asked about  those said to have died From COVID, as we know the Died  WITH  was a scam to boost the figures  as someone fell off a ladder  but because he tested positive  with a NON-validated  and non-diagnostic test  it was definitely the CONvid Even though NO post-mortem  was carried out
 The same is happening with those who took the jabs and died within  weeks or months,  even sometimes days  of having them  Have you heard of the MHRA yellow card reporting scheme for reporting adverse reactions and deaths ?

I give up

If you want to risk not having a covid jab, then that's up to you - You can only hurt yourself

But if you try to talk others out of having them because you claim to have lost friends directly through having a jab - then you are clearly a sick person talking mumbo-jumbo !

Wibbles

tomm said:

Wibbles said:

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tomm said:

Wibbles said:

tomm said:

 I see many have fallen for the state propaganda and FEAR campaign Asymptomatic  spread was the biggest lie  Remember them telling people to ACT like you have got it,? The RT PCR tool  is NOT a diagnostic test and nor was it ever Scientifically Validated, Making the results unreliable at best , Because the lack of any control group studies meant they had no clue what the false positive rate was , at  the various CT rates used ,IMO Virology is a complete FRAUD

IMO there wasn't any Pandemic , only a CASE demic  Anyhow the WHO has declared the health emergency is over

You are insane if you believed that covid pandemic is a myth 

How many people did you know who died?

NOT 1, But i know several who have died following being injected

how do you know that they died as a dircet result of the jab though ?

The same question could be asked about  those said to have died From COVID, as we know the Died  WITH  was a scam to boost the figures  as someone fell off a ladder  but because he tested positive  with a NON-validated  and non-diagnostic test  it was definitely the CONvid Even though NO post-mortem  was carried out
 The same is happening with those who took the jabs and died within  weeks or months,  even sometimes days  of having them  Have you heard of the MHRA yellow card reporting scheme for reporting adverse reactions and deaths ?

I give up

If you want to risk not having a covid jab, then that's up to you - You can only hurt yourself

But if you try to talk others out of having them because you claim to have lost friends directly through having a jab - then you are clearly a sick person talking mumbo-jumbo !

THERE IS NO WAY i'll ever consider taking any mRNA injection, That has EUA only, and the Pharma Companies  have LIABILITY INDEMNITY Courtesy of the GOVT I don't care if others want to take the injections ,without being able to give their Informed consent, that is their choice , And  those like me and they are many  who won't  have these injections  which is our choice NOT yours or the govts

OK it is up to you but do you know what percentage of the population of UK refused a jab on various grounds ?

3% - that's hardly "many" is it ?

One more question - do you believe that aliens have swapped Trump for "one of them" ?

Wibbles

So now ONS are lying are they ?

"We have been collecting attitudes towards the COVID-19 vaccine, as part of the Opinions and Lifestyle Survey. We publish estimates on the number of adults who have refused / declined the vaccine, based on a sample of adults in Great Britain. Due to the small percentage of the population who say they have refused the vaccine, these estimates come with a degree of uncertainty.During the period 23 June to 18 July 2021, we found that 3% of adults in Great Britain said they had been offered the Covid-19 vaccine but declined the vaccine."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/numberofindividualswhohaverefuseddeclinedacovid19vaccine

Some people just can't be helped !

Wibbles

Looks like close to average 97% vaccinated (3% unvaccinated) to me !!

I am guessing that Tomm lives near the bottom of the deprived area level - and most probably a youngster - and also never wore a facemask (even at the height of the pandemic) ?

The JCVI says a fourth Covid jab is not yet needed because data shows, three months after a booster shot, people aged 65 and over still have about 90% protection against hospitalisation.

Compared to what level of protection against hospitalisation for the non-believers / non vaccinated ?

"People who had received at least a third dose, or booster, of a COVID-19 vaccine have been less likely to die from COVID-19 since September 2021 compared with people who are unvaccinated."

Wibbles

tomm said:

Wibbles said:

Looks like close to average 97% vaccinated (3% unvaccinated) to me !!

I am guessing that Tomm lives near the bottom of the deprived area level - and most probably a youngster - and also never wore a facemask (even at the height of the pandemic) ?

The JCVI says a fourth Covid jab is not yet needed because data shows, three months after a booster shot, people aged 65 and over still have about 90% protection against hospitalisation.

Compared to what level of protection against hospitalisation for the non-believers / non vaccinated ?

"People who had received at least a third dose, or booster, of a COVID-19 vaccine have been less likely to die from COVID-19 since September 2021 compared with people who are unvaccinated."

It's 2023  And that in fo is old and out of date there is more upto date info that shows No one getting the boosters  And I can assure YOU The JVCI or who ever they wan t to call their selves are putting out duff info Its called PROPAGANDA    done to make those un jabbed feel isolated, IT DOESN'T WORK on us, Because we don't trust whatever they say anymore

Really

Proof?

Wibbles

tomm said:

Wibbles said:

Looks like close to average 97% vaccinated (3% unvaccinated) to me !!

I am guessing that Tomm lives near the bottom of the deprived area level - and most probably a youngster - and also never wore a facemask (even at the height of the pandemic) ?

The JCVI says a fourth Covid jab is not yet needed because data shows, three months after a booster shot, people aged 65 and over still have about 90% protection against hospitalisation.

Compared to what level of protection against hospitalisation for the non-believers / non vaccinated ?

"People who had received at least a third dose, or booster, of a COVID-19 vaccine have been less likely to die from COVID-19 since September 2021 compared with people who are unvaccinated."

It's 2023  And that in fo is old and out of date there is more upto date info that shows No one getting the boosters  And I can assure YOU The JVCI or who ever they wan t to call their selves are putting out duff info Its called PROPAGANDA    done to make those un jabbed feel isolated, IT DOESN'T WORK on us, Because we don't trust whatever they say anymore

You are wrong, extremely vulnerable people are getting covid booster jabs now 

People like you with your incorrect dangerous info should be silent.

Did you wear a facemask at the height of the pandemic and do you follow the rules now (my surgery requests that people still wear masks)

Adrian_Scope

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