DWP using old claim forms and evidence

Harleyqueen

I am trying to help a 69 yr old who is on DLA and advised by Welfare Advisor to submit a change of circumstances. Advisor sent it in and as predicted by a helpful member on here it was not allowed, so he has now been told he can apply for PIP.

He called the DWP and is now awaiting the PIP form. 
He was asked if the DWP should use previous forms/evidence when considering the new PIP claim, he said yes,but was told he could withdraw that consent at any time.

I am thinking he should withdraw the consent as I do not think an old DLA form from the 1990's or the recent request for a DLA change of circumstances would help a new PIP claim  with the rules/and criteria being so different. The only other form they have is an ESA form when he claimed ESA.

I was surprised to hear that the Advisor then said sorry I got it wrong but I can help you with the PIP form, which is an offer I don't think he should accept given the incorrect advice re the change of circumstances.

So is it wise to let the DWP use old information/evidence

kind regards

Harleyqueen 

poppy123456

Although PIP and DLA are different it doesn’t mean you can’t use the same evidence. 

They can also send extra relevant and more up to date evidence to support the PIP claim. 

Harleyqueen

poppy123456 said:

Although PIP and DLA are different it doesn’t mean you can’t use the same evidence. 

They can also send extra relevant and more up to date evidence to support the PIP claim. 

Thank you Poppy, 

New up to date evidence will be sent as his conditions have worsened, I was just concerned  as I do not know what was on previous forms 

kind regards 

Harleyqueen 

calcotti

Harleyqueen said:..New up to date evidence will be sent as his conditions have worsened, I was just concerned  as I do not know what was on previous forms .

The most important information to convey when completing the PIP claim is how his conditions affect his ability to carry out the activities. PIP is not based on the underlying conditions.

Harleyqueen

calcotti said:

Harleyqueen said:..New up to date evidence will be sent as his conditions have worsened, I was just concerned  as I do not know what was on previous forms .

The most important information to convey when completing the PIP claim is how his conditions affect his ability to carry out the activities. PIP is not based on the underlying conditions.

Many thanks for your reply, I am ploughing through the descriptors, it’s quite hard putting into words the problems he has, I imagine most people have this problem.
 

Kind regards 

Harleyqueen 

calcotti

This may be helpful
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form-pip/

Harleyqueen

calcotti said:

This may be helpful
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form-pip/

Just had a look at the link, and yes I think it will help me 

thank you 

kind regards 

L_Volunteer

Glad you think it will help you @Harleyqueen. Please do not hesitate to let us know if there is anything else we can do that might help you 

Harleyqueen

L_Volunteer said:

Glad you think it will help you @Harleyqueen. Please do not hesitate to let us know if there is anything else we can do that might help you    

Where I state he needs help to complete a task for example Bathing, Preparing Food, etc 
 is it advisable to list all his conditions and limitations that stop him from completing that task for example Breathlessness due  COPD,  Pain due Osteoarthritis etc. 

Thanks

Harleyqueen

poppy123456

For the questions about the acitivities then you need to give full details of why he can't complete that activity to the required standard. Just telling them breathlessness or pain isn't enough you need more details.

Include a couple of real world incidents of exactly what happened the last time he attempted each descriptor that applies to him. Adding detailed information such as where he was, did anyone see it, what exactly happened and what were the consequences. You should aim for at least half an A4 side of paper per descriptor that applies.

Make sure you include his name and NI number on everything you send and only send copies.

Harleyqueen

Thank you Poppy,

I will look at the descriptors again. and try to give examples, I will really need to think how to put it all into words.

kind regards

Harleyqueen 

L_Volunteer

Have you managed to look at the descriptors again yet @Harleyqueen? I am just wondering how this is going for you at the moment and if you would like to share a little more with us or talk it through with us.

The only words that matter most are your own words as they reflect your experience best. Would using something like dictation and then editing it once you have put your automatic thoughts into words help? 

Harleyqueen

I spent  most of last week going over everything and thinking of examples, I think I understand the descriptors for the care, and I have added extra information we’re I think it’s needed. I am worried if I send too much it will not get read. I do think I am better filling out his form myself rather than an Advisor who does not know him. 

Many thanks 

Harleyqueen 

L_Volunteer

I hear you @Harleyqueen. Might it be worth questioning if there are a key few pieces of documentation which overlap and cover the points which impact the most? That might help to reduce the amount of paperwork and increase the likelihood of it getting read