A I where do we stop.

onebigvoice

I was just watching a program called Peppa Pig, and like most kids programs they can also be educational.
 i.e. Daddy Pig is an expert at most things including Concrete?  They were out in their new "electric" car today called Rodger, who has all the toys including voice recodnition, self parking and self drive.
  While going down the road they were stopped by Mr Panda the police officer.  He asked who was driving and they told him "RODGER" you need a drivers licence to drive on the road have you go one?  Rodger said yes.
  I then thought in our world, when cars become driverless, or AI driven, would you still need a driving licence to drive a "SMART" car?
   Would they lower the age for driving since there is no driving involved?  Could you still be driving when your 100 years old, since there would be no need to have an eye test?
  What do you think?  The car would be governed so there would be no speeding, and would also complete an emergency stop if some one stepos off the foot path infront of you.
Good or Bad?  
  Education can be fun....

rustledjimm

It will be a long, long time before the law is changed in regards to self-driving cars in my opinion.

Current self-driving cars still require the driver to be fully alert or they are liable not the software. The software isn't sold as infallible and it is not infallible. It will certainly make driving less of a chore/strain on people but I think we are quite far off from the system being fully driverless.

Most motor laws also allow grandfathering of older cars in, also many people want to drive faster than is legally allowed due to their impatience. I'm not saying this is a good thing but it may be that many drivers don't want a driverless car that always follows the speed limit.

It's a very interesting and complex topic and I have more I could say but I'm very busy today so that will do for now.

onebigvoice

rustledjimm said:

It will be a long, long time before the law is changed in regards to self-driving cars in my opinion.

Current self-driving cars still require the driver to be fully alert or they are liable not the software. The software isn't sold as infallible and it is not infallible. It will certainly make driving less of a chore/strain on people but I think we are quite far off from the system being fully driverless.

Most motor laws also allow grandfathering of older cars in, also many people want to drive faster than is legally allowed due to their impatience. I'm not saying this is a good thing but it may be that many drivers don't want a driverless car that always follows the speed limit.

It's a very interesting and complex topic and I have more I could say but I'm very busy today so that will do for now.

  I find it quite interesting my self, as like most, old skool drivers I have normally one car that I take to shows.
  There is nothing nicer than restoring an old car and then showing the Younger ones how to drive.
Most shows I go to get track time, (Japfest,) as I have had untill recently a 260Z 2+2, and at Cardiff when we have drift works or areana sectioned off for drift, doughnuts, ( Not only the people driving) or run what you brung.
  Out ran a Monster Mod, 1000 HP demo car in mine over 1/8 mile drag.  Poor guy went into 4 wheel drive and had to hit the Nos at the end to get past me.  Being old skool and a tool maker modded the head slightly and triple 40 DCOE webbers to start.
  As you can see I don't want Driverless cars, I would take a taxi otherwise.
Have got a KIA that has a lot of toys, including speed restriction and camera alarms, impact alarms that warn if going to fast for distance left to allow for stopping, front and rear cameras for parking, the list is endless.
  I stilllike driving.

onebigvoice

  Still on the subject of AI and cars I suppose?
  Most now must know that Wales has dropped its speed limit to 20 MPH.  This applies to "most " areas.  There are still areas that are 30 and 40 MPH which is strange to me since this has brought out another debate:
1.  What was the reason for the speed limit change.
  2.  What has actually changed?
1.  The reason for the change was to help save lives, as they say being "hit" at 20 MPH means the survival rate is better. 
there was another reason which was to improve the air quality.
This being the innitial reason that cars going slower produce less Carbon Foot print.  Don't know if this has been looked at, since going to work at a rat run near you means that the traffic is spending more time on sections of built up areas that they were trying to improve the quality of air in.
  Cars when the highway code was originally brought out have evolved, and polution from fumes is now covered under the MOT tests that cars have every year?  Most "big" cars can and do produce Zero carbon and actually produce cleaner air than what was being sucked into the carb.  But thats another issue.  Electric Cars or EV's have their own problems including their carbon print from the motors and battery production, and also their weight and the dust produced from the tyres, and of course in both instances find that people are using the brakes more as its becomming, not impossible, to hold around 18 MPH, the slightest incline and your over the limit, or going up hill you need to excellerate, so to combate that they put speed camera going up hill?
  The spped limit canges from 20, to 30 and 40 and back to 20 MPH can happen over the space of 50 Yards in one section.  The best is approaching a roundabout at 20 mph, 30 MPH around the roundabout and 20 MPH the other side?  One roundabout is 40 MPH?
 2.  Cars were sold on their efficency, so how can it be more efficent to be in first and second gear all the time riding the brake where you are to fast for first or to fast for second and need to slow down?  You will never get into 3rd, 4th or top gear as there are no roads in urban driving to warrent any other gears?
  So why have cars that can do over 30 MPH urban or 50 MPH on a Motor way?