Moved in together, now partner's ESA stopped?

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This discussion was created from comments split from: ESA & Partner moving in advice.

Gazday82

Hello I'm in a panic here I'm on pip and get esa I a month ago my partner who gets esa also decided to move in with me I declared this instantly after asking how it would work I was told they would add my partner onto my claim so we decided to go ahead after being promised no money would be stopped so we go ahead fill out the form they sent ESa3 form so today my partner receives 3 letters saying her claim has been stopped and 1 letter is her p45 I'm panaking now is this cause they added her onto my claim cause Im the main name claiment or does this mean she's lost any money at all and my money is same 

calcotti

If her ESA included any contribution based ESA it should continue but any income based ESA for her would stop. If her ESA was completely income based I would not expect her to have got a P45. The receipt of a P45 suggests contribution based ESA (or new style style ESA)in which case it would not have stopped. She should clarify this and if necessary challenge the stopping of the ESA.

Your ESA will be recalculated as a couple. If she does receive any ESA it will be deducted from yours.

Your ESA as a couple will be less than you used to get as two individuals.

Can you confirm what sort of ESA you get and confirm if your partner gets any other benefits.

You can use a benefits calculator to see what your should get.

Gazday82

Hello calcotti

MY partner is only on esa she been on it fir over 6 years I think it's income related allowence they said all would happen was I'd be the main claimant and she would be added on to mine I was thinking is this why they sent these letters but it says on the letter the law says we can't pay employment and support allowence it's odd I received a text Monday saying they received the ESa3 form and it would be actioned today no need to call then  we get these letters 

Gazday82

We ain't sure if its income based or contribution based none of the letters say what it is all I know is she been on it fir over 6 years like 

calcotti

Gazday82 said:

We ain't sure if its income based or contribution based none of the letters say what it is all I know is she been on it fir over 6 years like 

As a said, it her ESA was fully income based I would not have expected her to get a P45 because income based ESA is not taxable. Contribution based ESA is taxable. Can you see the calculation page of her ESA award (although they are notoriously difficult to interpret). 

Gazday82

calcotti said:

Gazday82 said:

We ain't sure if its income based or contribution based none of the letters say what it is all I know is she been on it fir over 6 years like 

As a said, it her ESA was fully income based I would not have expected her to get a P45 because income based ESA is not taxable. Contribution based ESA is taxable. Can you see the calculation page of her ESA award (although they are notoriously difficult to interpret). 

I've got this year's award letter but it jusy says esa employment and support allowence award she gets about 148 per week that's all it says on there  I just read the letter again and it says Sgt the top we are writing to tell u that the contributor element of esa cam count has taxable income then it's got fur the period  from dates so and so was taxable would that mean it's contribution based do u  think 

Gazday82

That's the letter we received I'm confused cause it say the law says we cannot pay esa she's been on it over 6 years she has a illness called colightus they firved this on us said nothing would change is it possible cause I became the main claimant they habe added her to mine and that's why she's received this letter cayse im the family priority claimant I've not had no letter confirming any change tho 

poppy123456

You've posted a photo of the wrong page because it doesn't indicated anything on that letter other than her ESA has ended. As calcotti said, we will need the page with the breakdown of what her ESA award is made up of.

Gazday82

Gazday82

Sorry I'm new on here I'm not good on stuff like this lol 

poppy123456

You should have covered all her personal information such as name and NI number. I can see both of those clearly on the bottom photo. You can edit it and remove the picture within 59 minutes of posting the comment.

poppy123456

As she was entitled to the christmas bonus then at least part of it was contributions based. The bonus isn't paid when claiming all Income Related.

Gazday82

poppy123456 said:

You should have covered all her personal information such as name and NI number. I can see both of those clearly on the bottom photo. You can edit it and remove the picture within 59 minutes of posting the comment.

So sorry I'm useless I think I've removed it I'm useless sorry 

poppy123456

You're not useless at all, it's easily done. Yes, you removed it. As part of it was contributions based i wouldn't expect that to end (£129.50/week) but it will be deducted in full from your ESA calculation. She needs to ring ESA to speak to them to ask why it ended.

Gazday82

poppy123456 said:

You're not useless at all, it's easily done. Yes, you removed it. As part of it was contributions based i wouldn't expect that to end (£129.50/week) but it will be deducted in full from your ESA calculation. She needs to ring ESA to speak to them to ask why it ended.

This is why I'm wondering if cayse I was adding her o to mine I was becoming the main claimant I'm praying they sent all this cause she is not the priority claiment my claim become a claim has a family if that makes sense however iv not had a letter saying mines gone up or she's added onto it or nothing 

poppy123456

As advised because her ESA was part contributions based then it should not have stopped completely. They will then use that amount in the calculation for your ESA. You will be the main claimant of your claim and you will receive extra money for her but overall you will receive less money than you were receiving as single people. It may take a few weeks to recalculate your ESA.

She does need to ring them to ask why her ESA stopped completely.

Gazday82

poppy123456 said:

As advised because her ESA was part contributions based then it should not have stopped completely. They will then use that amount in the calculation for your ESA. You will be the main claimant of your claim and you will receive extra money for her but overall you will receive less money than you were receiving as single people. It may take a few weeks to recalculate your ESA.

She does need to ring them to ask why her ESA stopped completely.

Thankyou so much for trying to help it's massively appreciated we will  all first thing Monday morn they promised none of this would happen they pushed us to move in has one aswell it's wrong 

poppy123456

Who told you that none of this would happen? No one can force anyone to live together, that has to be both of your decisions.

Gazday82

poppy123456 said:

Who told you that none of this would happen? No one can force anyone to live together, that has to be both of your decisions.

Long story my partner was sofa surfing but her mail was coming tk mine we wasn't partners at this time jusy good mates then we started goi g out after a year we spoke about her moving in but decided to wait after a month or so they called his name was rob he was saying if she didnt put my address has a fixed afress she was ginna lose all her income we asked how it would effect us would it stop any of our money they said no not at all so he basically gave a altimatum move in or dont get no income so we said let's give it a go now all what I was worried about has happened like I felt pressured cause people are struggling has it is who get money so to get nothing would be a nightmare so we decided to guve it a go 

poppy123456

Before you became a couple then its correct that it wouldn't have needed to be reported. Once you started living together as a couple then reporting the changes was correct. You can't live together as a couple and continue with your single ESA claims.