Advice please

Leigh14

Hi. Received text yesterday to say the forms for review are being sent out. When I first applied for PIP, I went on to the MR stage, as I was given low scores, which didn’t qualify for anything.

I was wondering if I could simply write on renewal forms what I had written for the MR stage. Would this be acceptable? Also, if I don’t get the points again, do I then go on to another MR stage, and could I ask how they could say I don’t qualify as my condition will never get better, it will only get worse. 

I know I’m jumping ahead of myself at the moment (given I haven’t even received forms yet) but I want to be prepared.

My pip end date is May 2024, so does this mean I have to wait that long for decision on review form? Hoping with enough written information I’ll get lucky and it will be a paper based assessment, as I’ve read on here, that can happen.

Thankyou.

Leigh14

Sorry, forgot to ask something else. On initial pip form, I got low points for daily living, but at MR stage, I believe I got 6 points, with 12 points for mobility. I didn’t pursue the daily living one, for fear of losing the mobility (hope this makes sense)
On the review form, can I go for daily living again, or would I need a separate form?

Thankyou

Leigh14

Can anyone help with this please?

Thankyou

Jimm_Scope

Hi @Leigh14, sorry it took some time to get to your discussion. We try to get through the community to help as many people as we can. 

If nothing has changed since you filled in the last MR form then yes, you should mention nothing has changed and then write out exactly how your conditions still effect you in the same way. 

The DWP may or may not decide another assessment is necessary and a review has the same appeal processes as an application. There's an MR stage and a Tribunal stage.

You can read more in-depth here, Citizen's Advice have a good information section on PIP Reviews.

Also, I don't think you are being too early, always better to be more prepared! Always try to give yourself more time You're doing the right thing

Leigh14

Thankyou @Jimm_Scope. I think at the MR stage, I simply concentrated on the mobility part (need to check all paperwork) If that is the case, on the review form can I simply answer the questions on daily living as if it was a new claim, or does the review simply want to know about the mobility, which is what I was awarded for?

bg844

Both activities, as advised recently on the thread here:
https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/108973/pip-award#latest

Leigh14

Hi again @leigh14 - with a MR they look at your whole claim again, even if you ask for just one of the components to be looked at. It's also rare for the award you currently have to be decreased, altho many fear this, which is a shame. Even if you'd appealed to a Tribunal, they warn you on the day if they feel they would give you a lower award; then you just don't proceed!

With a review, you are really starting again, which is why you should treat it as if it was your first claim where you hopefully gave detailed replies. So, give a couple of recent, detailed examples as to the difficulty you face for each applicable descriptor, i.e. when did it happen, where, what happened, did anyone see this, & were there any consequences to attempting/doing an activity?
Say if you can't do any applicable activity 'reliably,' i.e. safely, to an acceptable standard, repeat as often as one would reasonably expect, or if it takes you much longer than someone without a disability. This for both components.

Don't just put 'no change' without detailing as above what hasn't changed & what it's still like for you doing/attempting a descriptor that applies. There's not much space on the review form so add extra pages at the end saying from which question it's a continuation. Put your name & National Insurance number on each of these pages. 

This is a really good link as it's a guide for the assessors. 'Reliability' is a very important concept which you'll see here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

Don't forget to say if you feel you should have a longer award. Medical evidence does likely help here too as well as your own.


Thankyou @chiarieds 😊 Have copied and pasted your answer, so it’s in my own thread.

Leigh14

bg844 said:

Both activities, as advised recently on the thread here:
https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/108973/pip-award#latest

Thankyou 🙂