Disabled and sick forced to work.

poppy123456

2oldcodgers said:

I had a look myself and within up to an hour by train/bus there are 57 vacancies that I could do if I was under 65.
No, this is just one of many agencies that offer support and lists of jobs that are available.

Just because you maybe able to do those jobs, it doesn't mean someone else can.

Meg24 said:

  if they remove my LCWRA premium as they plan to

They are not planning on removing anyones LCWRA element, unless another decision says otherwise. If any changes take place and that's a big if, they won't start until at least 2025 for new claimants only.

WhatThe

2oldcodgers, I didn't say there was only one but thanked you for what I did find!

Thing is, if I too were younger, not autistic, could see better or even use a smart-phone and stay calm on public transport, I'd be quids in and probably not on benefits..   

There were other jobs I also could do but not reliably, for long periods or full-time. DWP talks about opportunities as though they invented them!! I don't need more qualifications, training or work experience - I'm simply unable to earn enough to fully support myself without having a breakdown but UC expects us to work full-time and replace benefits with earnings..

If benefits history data and NIC's can disappear under the UC Programme to be adjusted if  we reach retirement age - and my case is not unique - then my concerns about fairness and safety for working-age claimants are valid. Job Centres, Council Tax offices and Court buildings have been decommissioned. The new system is digital by default while humans are not. We won't be frogmarched to the workhouse but our income and security can be removed with no burden of proof on the DWP and questions asked later. 

You, though, will never have your pension taken away. You built your career as a man. It is also still very much a man's world as you and other attention-seekers illustrate so clearly. I think you simply have no interest in people you don't identify with and you're a product of your time. It doesn't make you a bad person but it is very tiresome for the rest of us struggling with real problems in difficult circumstances and facing an uncertain future. This forum is here to support vulnerable people not for you to sneer at those less fortunate than yourself and parade your triumphs. 
 
   

Rosie_Scope

I know emotions can run high during discussions on these kinds of topics, so just a little reminder not directed specifically at any particular member or post, but the direction of the discussion itself:

While it's fine to have differences in opinion and constructive discussion about those differences, please try not to make more specific personal comments about other members where possible. Civil, safe and supportive, as always

MW123

2oldcodgers said:

But having said that have a look at Latest Job | Diversity Jobs Group | Your Diversity and Inclusions Job Boards.
 
Almost everyone including the deemed sick and/or disabled could contribute their talents towards a job.
I had a look myself and within up to an hour by train/bus there are 57 vacancies that I could do if I was under 65.
No, this is just one of many agencies that offer support and lists of jobs that are available.

While directing individuals to job-listing websites is a good starting point, a closer examination of your provided link reveals a stark reality, none of the listed positions would align with my specific needs or employment criteria if I were seeking employment. 

Choosing a job is a critical decision, especially for many disabled individuals. if I were job hunting as an older person grappling with chronic health issues and limited computer skills along with mobility issues and travel constraints, the geographical location would be a decisive factor. Even if the perfect job were suddenly available it would not be a viable option for me if a commute was involved. 

I fully agree with you, 2oldcodgers; there are employment opportunities, but none of the vacancies advertised in my area are suitable for individuals under 65 with disabilities or health limitations, they predominantly cater for able-bodied individuals.

 

mikes1992

I'm tempted to just walk away from civilization like in the film "into the wild". Our society has been enslaved by the idea of money. We're destroying the planet and we can't do anything because we can't afford to change and nobody will actually do anything without monetary incentives. I think it's time people realise that money is just an idea, the more important things in this world are things like human welfare and preserving the habitability of the planet. 

To make change happen you've got to walk away from the people who keep asking how much they're going to get paid.

I'm autistic and I've been working for 10 years in Asda while being viewed as a parasite on the profit margins of people who just see their staff as expenditure figures. 

MW123

@mikes1992 Welcome to Scope.
I know you've dedicated a decade of your life to Asda, and I understand it can be difficult, but have you considered looking for another job? It could open up opportunities for you to find a workplace where your contributions are valued, your neurodiversity is understood and embraced, and where you feel a sense of belonging.

JasonRA

This growing animosity towards people are disabled mentally or physically is why I'm completely against euthanasia.

A society which treats it's vulnerable, elderly and disabled like garbage should not ever be allowed anywhere near a position to implement "assisted dying" because it will abused and people like us will be "encouraged" because we're becoming to be seen as a financial burden because that's what it's all about the money, Canada is a prime example.

Of course the those with terminal illness should have the right to peacefully sleep but I'm very worried about the slippery slope situation.

Bostankhan22

Hi can someone help and tell me if your on pip and esa income related but in the support group, will I need to change over to uc with this migration going on soon. Will it affect people like myself too whether it's now or in September. I'm getting anxious and worried j Don't understand or have a clue who will be affected and when. Please advise

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/868191#Comment_868191

Yes you will eventually be migrated across to UC as all Income Related benefits are ending. PIP is not part of UC and will continue as normal.

Bostankhan22

Even if I don't get tax credits my esa is that I am in the support group. I don't get any form of tax credits. I wasn't sure if I was to move over to uc.

Bostankhan22

I remembered now you kindly answered me way back stating it wasn't going to affect myself as I don't claim tax credits so I shouldn't worry maybe til 2028.

Penybont

unless the goverment force employeeres to hire disabled people this will not work.

I have 5 years volunteering in a charity shop and have applied for over 400 jobs in the last 3 years and still can't get a retail job. I am disabled who wants to work but can't get a job because employers in Bridgend refuse to hire disabled people.

Bostankhan22

I agree as it will be difficult to get disabled people in work. It's already for people to find work let alone get disabled jobs I think they are not really thinking about the impact it will have on our mental healths

Aella

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/756916#Comment_756916

There was that thing in Japan, where totally immobile paralysed people in hospital beds in Japan were given jobs as waitresses, remote controlling robots with their eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK government forces something like this on us.

Kizzie58

So many of the things the media tell us turn out not to be true or just twisted

Their job is to push fear. I haven't read a paper since the 80s and not watched live TV since the 90s and if im every out and about and there is a TV on I get so overwhelmed by the "breaking news" banners, flashing look at me attention lights everything is doom and gloom, I can see how people just get so depressed. if I could give people one bit of advice it would be to never watch any live TV. watch a film or a comedy etc but certainly not agenda pushing soaps they turn your thinking brain to mushy peas 😱😂

Bostankhan22

Hello does anyone when the new pip reforms happen. Will it be after the election. And how soon do the cash payments turn into vouchers. Also does anyone know if carers allowance will stop. I get pip enhanced and my daughter cares for me and gets the carers allowance so if pip stops so does carers where does that justify. Any updates please advise.

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/883124#Comment_883124

They are just proposals at the moment and with a very high chance of a new Government this week they may never happen.

egister

Moral panic ewerywhere