We're still without a Minister for Disabled People...
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After the latest cabinet reshuffle, Conservative MP Tom Pursglove, has been moved over to 'Minister for Legal Migration'. After Robert Jenrick recently resigned.
It has meant that the UK government still does not have a Minister for Disabled People. This is the longest gap without a minister in post, in the last 30 years...
It has created many discussions on social media on whether this role is to be filled or to be scrapped.
Over to you:
It has meant that the UK government still does not have a Minister for Disabled People. This is the longest gap without a minister in post, in the last 30 years...
It has created many discussions on social media on whether this role is to be filled or to be scrapped.
Over to you:
- What are your thoughts on the UK having a Minister for Disabled People?
- Is there an MP that you think should be in the role?
- What kind of message does the government think, by having no one in the role, sends to the country's 16 million disabled people?
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I still think it's odd that we've been given a "Minister for Common Sense" but still no one representing the wellbeing of the disabled community.
I think that lacks common sense and makes it look like they're trying to sweep disabled people under the rug for now.4 -
They don't bother trying to hide how they really feel towards ill/disabled and any other vulnerable groupAlbus_Scope said:I still think it's odd that we've been given a "Minister for Common Sense" but still no one representing the wellbeing of the disabled community.
I think that lacks common sense and makes it look like they're trying to sweep disabled people under the rug for now.3 -
Someone who is disabled would be more qualified to be minister for the disabled but that is just too sensible for them to make it happen.Hannah_Scope said:After the latest cabinet reshuffle, Conservative MP Tom Pursglove, has been moved over to 'Minister for Legal Migration'. After Robert Jenrick recently resigned.
It has meant that the UK government still does not have a Minister for Disabled People. This is the longest gap without a minister in post, in the last 30 years...
It has created many discussions on social media on whether this role is to be filled or to be scrapped.
Over to you:- What are your thoughts on the UK having a Minister for Disabled People?
- Is there an MP that you think should be in the role?
- What kind of message does the government think, by having no one in the role, sends to the country's 16 million disabled people?
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Well what annoys me is that they have never thought it right that 'hen pecked' husbands should have a minister that represents the millions of us.honestjon said:
They don't bother trying to hide how they really feel towards ill/disabled and any other vulnerable groupAlbus_Scope said:I still think it's odd that we've been given a "Minister for Common Sense" but still no one representing the wellbeing of the disabled community.
I think that lacks common sense and makes it look like they're trying to sweep disabled people under the rug for now.2 -
Biblioklept said:
Not sure I understand what you mean @2oldcodgers2oldcodgers said:
Well what annoys me is that they have never thought it right that 'hen pecked' husbands should have a minister that represents the millions of us.honestjon said:
They don't bother trying to hide how they really feel towards ill/disabled and any other vulnerable groupAlbus_Scope said:I still think it's odd that we've been given a "Minister for Common Sense" but still no one representing the wellbeing of the disabled community.
I think that lacks common sense and makes it look like they're trying to sweep disabled people under the rug for now.It's not worth giving it a thought, @Biblioklept!As for there being no minister, it isn't any surprise, it just shows how much they care, and they don't.
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Not having a Minister for Disabled People? I'm not sure that I've noticed the difference from when we had one.5
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This Govt. doesn't care about disabled people and it's shameful. Depending on your definition of "disabled" i.e. whether you just include people with a "named" disability or you expand it to include things like dementia, there are more disabled people now than, say, 30 years ago and, thanks to advances in science, housing, food technology and medicine, they're living longer than ever - which is great but not, because of the chaos in the NHS. More and more disabled people seem to be being treated like a burden on society, not that they have a valuable role to play in shaping the state of our very humanity.1
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I tend to agree with most posts but not trying to complain against the "one we had" as stated I never noticed the difference.
I was at Cardiff Head Office yesterday and in the meeting room next to ours there was MIND asnd our union reps trying to get movement on the mental issues some of us face, and wanted to attend that one, but when looking at our meeting and the other meeting I could not be in three places at once.
ANYWAY, while all this was going on, Mark Drakeford stepped down as First Minister for Wales.
Who, said all your Christmas's can't come as one?
Disabled minister: We do need some one to call a Champion For our cause. Since Wales wanted to increase the number of AM's in the senate I have asked why we are not represented their?
I wanted to have two people solely applicable to Sick, Disabled and Mental Issues so that points raised can be raised to one person who has the responsibility for those issues.
You know how it works, you go on line and look to see what you are entitled to after an operation for instance.
The DWP will direct you to the relevant department. BUT, you are not given all the facts, because one department will deal with one issue another with something else and so on, yet the NHS will enter all this on one file its called your Medical History.
Can anyone who has applied to a second tier tribunal through your MP found out what you have to do inorder to get the PHSO to actually do something?
They get you to restate your case, send in all the information that you don't agree with, get you to have another FOI and MR, they contact the DWP and PIP's find the faults in the reports, and yet will not even write a letter to PIP's and DWP stating they had broken the law, then decide there is no new information so they can't do anythink? And its up to you as to where you want to go from their?
Why when having to go through an MP to log your complaint don't they follow its up apart from a phone call to say sort it.
Its been over 3 years and where am I RELISTING MY COMPLAINTS AGAIN.
I could fill this post with the people I have written to and could also list the excuses that I have had..... top of the list: I am sorry that you have had to go through this we try to deliver the best service and will take on board what you have said, and are working towards reftifying this.?
Since this may have been happening to you why don't they contact you to SHOW WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM AND WHAT THEY DID TO RECTIFY IT? They ring you and offer you £30 as some way to rectify this issue and to show we don't allow this to go un-noticed? They get paid £1200 for a basic assessment, and still claim this from the DWP good or bad? Do you still think we don't need a Minister that will actually represent us? IMAGINE everyone here all sending this "Disability " minister the errors of our assessments and asked him to fix them?
I have done this in Cardiff, and they resigned. Wonder why?
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We do need to gave a minister for disabled people, but not from this government, they don't care about disabled people. They'd try and cut our benefits if they could and leave us on the poverty line it's like being in dickensian reality under these tories.3
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It isn't really a surprise - it's what you would expect from our cynical, uncaring government. Their attitude towards disabled people is heartless. According to Jeremy Hunt, disabled people should be working from home and not scrounging off the state. To be honest, there isn't a single Conservative MP with the compassion or empathy to represent disabled people.3
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In my opinion having a Minister for Disabled people is a vital role for disabled voices. I do think we should have someone in that position. I think people's opinions on the role and how the role works will be different amongst us because of our different opinions on politics. Also, how each party treat the role as well as how each Minister in the position treats that role.
If they are scrapping the role (there have been discussions on a U-Turn) then I think another route is to have representatives for disabled voices in every sector of government. If the role was created so disabled voices are heard, then we must continue to be heard. Disabled people are still facing many barriers.
I do find it baffling that they have scrapped it after the Autumn Statement and giving us an insight into what they would like to plan to do in regard to getting more disabled people back into work...1 -
I don't know much about politics but having a disability is something I know a lot about and I know think we should have an MP whom has a disability to stand up for people with disabilities because that sort of person would not only fight for us but understand a lot more of the daily issues that need changing to make our lives better.2
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There should be a MP for Disabilities, someone who is able to be an advocate for people who are unable to have their voices heard. Unfortunately the current government appears to be streamlining all MPs with a view to what the government are wanting to achieve irrespective of the damage caused.2
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The Tories are currently running a hostile environment against anyone who is not one of them. This decision is not surprising.1
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As I said earlier and a lot of people are saying the tories just don't care about us people with disabilities. It all started with cameron when his son died he turned against disabled people. Cut benefits made it tougher for disabled people to claim benefits I have worked but had to give my job up in 2010 due to my physical and mental health disabilities got worse I could do the job any more.
And uts got harder too, why do we have to prove how disabled we are it's degrading. We're living in Dickension times under this government I'm surprised they haven't brought the work house's back. So it doesn't surprise me that they don't have a disabled minister as they truly don't care!!!3 -
the government don’t care about disabled people2
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Yes. We do need a minister for Disabled people to represent us and stand up for our rights.
Someone who might make a very effective spokesperson might possibly the to recall Ann Widdecombe.2 -
I hadn't realised that there was no minister for disabledThere is PUS responsible but she is not a full ministerThis is not good enoughI think that this is appalling and the post needs a minister....0
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Ann Widdecombe, I nearly choked on my coffee there.
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Hannah_Scope said:In my opinion having a Minister for Disabled people is a vital role for disabled voices. I do think we should have someone in that position. I think people's opinions on the role and how the role works will be different amongst us because of our different opinions on politics. Also, how each party treat the role as well as how each Minister in the position treats that role.
If they are scrapping the role (there have been discussions on a U-Turn) then I think another route is to have representatives for disabled voices in every sector of government. If the role was created so disabled voices are heard, then we must continue to be heard. Disabled people are still facing many barriers.
I do find it baffling that they have scrapped it after the Autumn Statement and giving us an insight into what they would like to plan to do in regard to getting more disabled people back into work...
I find it difficult to comprehend why they spend so much money getting disabled people into work when they can't find fit people jobs.
I would love to work and earn a few BOB, but as soon as I work I ONLY GET 0.15 PENCE IN THE POUND. Now don't think me ungrateful but how many hours would I have to put in to take home £200 a week?
I am willing to work at home, and I am willing to use the skills I have ( which are many) but they won't let me.
Lets put it this way: MY OPINION;
If they can't find a fit and able bodied MP to take the job of Disability Minister, they why don't they give me the job? I would be willing to do JOB SHARE where the hours that are required could be split between 3 or 4 others so that the more you hire you could have the department running 24/7 (like A & E) I have been a night shift foreman and Safety Officer/First Aider for over 30 years, so I'm up for the job, is there anyone that would want to join me in a Job Share?
Training given on the go, could not do any worse than the others that have had the job? I already write Risk Assessments and Method Statements, am already Disabled so know what is required to get treatment appointments for treatment including Mental Issues now comming to the forefront.
Gert Scope to form a Body of members that want to be more active in the fight for what we deserve.
The first thing I would change is I AM NOT FIGHTING FOR WHAT I DESERVE I WANT ACCOUNTABILITY TO BE THE FIRST RULE.
This would apply to the out going people to question what is supposed to have been done and what was actually done.
The recent production of the White Paper in 23rd April 2023 AGAIN was implemented by the DWP, we are now into DECEMBER so the first thing to look at is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
You give out contracts to Jobs for the boys but can't sort out something that can only get worse.
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