PIP review assessment

Tbo55ie805_

Hello there to everyone!! 

I had my pip review assessment on Friday who run late by an hour and half so I called them. 

The call lasted 1hr 57 mins. Am so worried cause the first thing the accessor asked was do I have a licence I said yes. Then do I have any pets ? I replied no. Next
she asked if I work I explained I’ve off work for a while since I had my foot operation with causing me great pain to walk on. I explained to her it was a born deformity which I didn’t know I could correct. But after the surgery I have suffered and still have the other toe on the right foot to go. She asked how long can I walk I explained 5mins maybe 10 but I have 2-3 min breaks cause am alway out breath due to the asthma and at risk of fails cause at the moment I use crutches to mobilise. This scared me 

I also suffer with Mental heath, crohns, asthma , anxiety, depression, migraines, type 2 heart block with was currently found I was asked about that. 

Along with other questions I just feel scared right now and don’t know what do I did a 3 way call my advocate was someone who helps me with taking my medication etc and shopping. My son also helps I was asked how many days a week I see them to the extent who helps me
with my banking and I am able to access online banking. I said yes but my son and bank monitor everything as I struggle so was like what stops you. I said I don’t know why but it’s easier for them to it before I spend any thing. I was exhausted at this point I felt wiped out !!

I just jumped in bed and then she called again to ask what’s the name of the strong medication I take as she has all medication I take already. I had to hope to the kitchen out of breath panting. Cause I couldn’t find the medication I knew it was there but just couldn’t find it. I also had forgotten it. The accessor said it was fine and said I put strong pain killer. I apologised and said you see I panicked when I can’t do it. I am so scared cause when I put the 
I found it right in front of me. I felt like calling again. But am already scared about this whole assignment. 

 I can’t even remember half of the questions but I received a text that report was ready 2 hrs later on the Friday at 16;30. I have not slept since then, can’t even bath or get of bed. 

What should I do now ? Am melting inside. 

poppy123456

These assessments do cause a lot of anxiety and the majority of people feel exactly the same way. The questions you were ask are all part of the assessment process for them to gather more evidence to support your claim. 

It's also normal for the report to be returned quite soon after the assessment because once it's written there's no need to hold onto it. 

At the moment it's impossible to predict anything. You've done all you can for now. As the report has now been returned a decision can take up to about 12 weeks. Once the decision is made you will be contacted. You may receive letters or texts with some updates while you wait for the decision.

Do you have something you can do to try to focus on something else while you wait? Perhaps a hobby, read a book or even watch some TV?

Tbo55ie805_

Hi the Poppy123456, thank you so much for the reply. I have no hobbies apart from shopping online for stuff I don’t need atm. These one of the reason my son gets upset with me and has taken control of my account. 

I have been surfing the net for answers of this pip assessment for months. As it took a year to finally have a a telephone call. 

I don’t even go anywhere because of my bad foot. I don’t have many friends either who want to visit me. 

It has become very frustrating for me and the report should be ready in 6 wks as the text wrote. So am very very nervous in myself. I panic and can’t do anything. 

Jimm_Scope

Hi @Tbo55ie805_! Welcome to our community. I know just how anxious the waiting can be, I've just gone through the same process. Do you have any family around for support at all? 

While it isn't meeting people in person, we have spaces for just chatting with people on this forum. You can check out our Coffee Lounge and specifically our "How is your day going?" discussion. 

Tbo55ie805_

Hi Jimm, thanks for reaching out. The process is so frustrating and so over it but bit worried and panicking at the same time. I have a brother but is also going through he’s own stuff I really hate to ask him for help. Thank you for the support and suggestions I’ll take look at the discussion board. X

Tbo55ie805_

Afternoon, 
it’s been a while am sure your all hoping for some good news ! 

So I received a standard text this morning 

My review is complete, I rang up only to be told that my claim was stopped. Prior to that I had asked for a copy of the report. 

I didn’t like what I saw basically the asscessor assumed because I have a full license which I’ve had since 2007 but dom drive used as ID mainly now. Work I am intellectual …. She also twisted things like saying I built a relationship repport with her. I can walk then 20-50 because she asked me how long can I walk for I said 5-10 minutes max and that stopping in pain. 

I have to wait for the decision makers report now. So upset I don’t know how I’ve come online this morning.  Not feeling myself and I’ve not been able to sleep for weeks now suffering with insomnia plus my crohns has been keepin me up all night. 

My feet are throbbing from previous pain and the surgery I’ve done which I will need another operation as it didn’t go O well I can not stand on that foot without being in pain. 

Cry my eyes out now any advice pls. 

Tbo55ie805_

I’ve spoken with my gp who said they will write a letter as the DWP didn’t contact them and the assessor lied and said they did when I asked. 

Albus_Scope

Hi @Tbo55ie805_ I'm so sorry this has been hard on your mental health. I'm glad your GP is there to support you though.  You can still ask for a Mandatory reconsideration, so please try not to worry too much. 
  Have you spoken to your GP recently about your decreasing mental health and the insomnia?  Or your brother? I'm sure they'd want to know if you were struggling.  

Tbo55ie805_

Hi there ,@Albus_scope. 

Thank you for reaching out and I appreciate your help. 

My Gp is aware of these issues. I probably had an assessor going through a bad day. Because they didn’t call or write to my gp about anything and lied when I asked. That’s the worrying part. 

Albus_Scope

Not a problem at all @Tbo55ie805_ we're all here for support if you need us.

Sometimes things do slip through the cracks and unfortunately it's us that end up suffering for it! At least you can put in for an MR which will be seen by a different assessor. I'd suggest waiting for a copy of the report, then doing a MR in writing, so you can get all of your information in there and point out where the issues are.  We're all here if you need a hand.  

Tbo55ie805_

I @Albus_Scope ,

I requested the accessors report already have in my possession. I need what the decision marker wrote. 

poppy123456

Tbo55ie805_ said:

 they didn’t call or write to my gp about anything 

They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence. The onus is on you to make sure you send relevant evidence to support your claim. 

Letters from a GP aren't the best evidence to send to be honest. This is because a GP doesn't spend any time with you to know how you wash/dress/undress/prepare a meal etc etc. If they know it's because you told them and then it's hearsay. 

What you need to do is give a couple of real world examples of exactly what happened the last time you attempted each descriptor that applies to you. Adding detailed information such as where you were, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were. You should aim for at least 2 examples per descriptor that applies to you. 

Tbo55ie805_

Hi Poppy ,

hope your doin great ?

yes thank you for this advice will got on it straight away. 

Tbo55ie805_

I just found this interesting topic on here as I’ve been searching and searching for answers. 

Open this and watch more trending videos. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeAgRFAf/

chiarieds

Hi @Tbo55ie805_ - I can only say that I agree completely with the advice poppy has given. I've just looked at the first video you've linked to on TikTok, & it's not the best. Tribunals are perfectly aware that some people claim PIP & work, & others do not. There's also absolutely no need to mention the Equality Act in relation to PIP. With a PIP tribunal, judges are also not interested in what you might spend any PIP money on if awarded; it's just not relevant, as you can spend your money on anything you wish. You'll also not be awarded as you could do with such money!

A tribunal simply decides if, on the balance of probabilities, you have the difficulties with some aspects of daily living &/mobility that you've said. A tribunal is also not a 'court,' & they are purely 'inquisatorial' in trying to find out more.

I think you've found your answer here, but perhaps haven't realised it; tho apologies if you have.

Please do give those so important couple of real life examples for each descriptor/activity that is applicable, as poppy has said. Also say if you can do such an activity 'reliably,' reading about this under 'Reliability' here, as the breathlessness & pain you experience should also be considered: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria

Tbo55ie805_

@chiarieds good evening,

thank you for your reply and taking your time to havea look at the link I posted. 

I will have a look at your link and get back to you x

poppy123456

Tbo55ie805_ said:

Open this and watch more trending videos. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeAgRFAf/

I did watch it and can only advise that you should leave videos like this well alone because that was terrible. She clearly doesn't know what she's talking about. 

Tbo55ie805_

Thank you poppy x

my problem is the assessors assuming that because I have a full license which I acquired in 2007 as I found it difficult to take my kids to school. Doesn’t know many times I failed the theory or how I even passed the actual driving test. 

Next because I work to stay  positive and take my mind of things I’ll well enough. Literally I struggle to work due you my health issues my management and occupational health have put measures in place for me. 

Plus a few other stuff were not said how it affects me. Nothing when I told am constantly in pain on feet especially after the surgery I’ve had on one which the other to go. It was 30 pages and she rushing me when she was late 1hr 46mins if I hadn’t called to find out what was happening they would never have called. Spent 1:54 mins but in the report had written 1:14 mins which I screen saved all the call logs.  

Also she lied and wrote I lived with a friend when I told her I live with my son who is 20 and he is the one that makes sure I go to appointments by taking me. Otherwise I can’t go and consultants get upset with me. I also make use of hospital transportation which I told I do not drive myself. Yet am intellectual thats what she wrote and don’t be fooled. 

Am so saddened by this tactic. 

I appreciate all you guys help xx

poppy123456

When you filled out the review form did you treat it as a new claim and give as much information as possible? Or did you just put no change and nothing else, if your conditions hadn't changed?

Tbo55ie805_

Hi Poppy, 

I put as much information I could and declared new health issues with supporting evidence. 

Tbo55ie805_

Hi guys , 
I just received my decision markers report and scored 0 in everything. 

I don’t know how ! 

This is so exhausting and embarrassing as the assessors report was used to make this decision. The assessor also didn’t say everything just chose what they felt was best to discontinue the claim. 

Not sure what to do now ?