Social Care Assessment!

Bettahm

Have just realized after reading again the emailed copy of my cmht discharge letter received in December, seven months after the date on it, that I have had a social care assessment!

Cpn came here just before Christmas 2022 and said he was coming on the 29th with a social worker. He did not say why or what for and I didnt query it. So all that questioning that day that stressed me out was the assessment! At no point ever, before or after, did they tell me what they were doing. I was so bad after it, it was January 2nd before I emailed and said, as I did at the assessment, that I didn't want all the stuff they had questioned me about. All I wanted, I said, was help with my mind and support at medical appointments, for now, til I'm better.
They never responded to my email.
Cpn wanted to send my support worker round here with another social worker. I said no. I expected to see him again for mental health support. 
Last time I saw him was Feb 22nd when he came with a transforming care lady. Have since found out transforming care liaise between autistic person and mh team. 
I have no idea what was said between all these people behind my back because I was not informed of ANYTHING AT ALL during last year or consulted over any of their plans and decisions taken regarding MY LIFE! 

Cant believe any of this is proper practice and again think they took advantage because they knew I had no family or friends. 

They have made my mh worse and no way do I want any more assessments or interference in my life!

Albus_Scope

Sorry to hear about the lack of transparency there @Bettahm, I can understand the frustration!
Going back to your other discussion, I agree with Rosie,  you should try and get yourself to another GP, hopefully they'll be able to offer some help. Unfortunately it seems to get any help, often you have to jump through a few hoops first. 

Bettahm

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

Have just realized after reading again the emailed copy of my cmht discharge letter received in December, seven months after the date on it, that I have had a social care assessment!

Cpn came here just before Christmas 2022 and said he was coming on the 29th with a social worker. He did not say why or what for and I didnt query it. So all that questioning that day that stressed me out was the assessment! At no point ever, before or after, did they tell me what they were doing. I was so bad after it, it was January 2nd before I emailed and said, as I did at the assessment, that I didn't want all the stuff they had questioned me about. All I wanted, I said, was help with my mind and support at medical appointments, for now, til I'm better.
They never responded to my email.
Cpn wanted to send my support worker round here with another social worker. I said no. I expected to see him again for mental health support. 
Last time I saw him was Feb 22nd when he came with a transforming care lady. Have since found out transforming care liaise between autistic person and mh team. 
I have no idea what was said between all these people behind my back because I was not informed of ANYTHING AT ALL during last year or consulted over any of their plans and decisions taken regarding MY LIFE! 

Cant believe any of this is proper practice and again think they took advantage because they knew I had no family or friends. 

They have made my mh worse and no way do I want any more assessments or interference in my life!

I completely understand why you want nothing more to do with them . 

I’m under a CMHT at the moment and they are so unbelievably terrible , they have lied about me which ended up in me being admitted to a psychiatric ward for a short while last year , was discharged and they still lied. Even the home crisis team was shocked at their lies and backed me up. The home crisis team were good but CMHT are beyond useless. 

Yes mine lied three times last year about me to others but I'm the only one who knows they lied so cant prove anything. Transforming care, my mps office and PALS preferred to believe them over me.
So I am under no one now. No way would I go back to cmht! They are underhanded, liars and manipulators.
Still reckon because I have no one so no one to be around when they came here they took advantage.
But knew I couldnt be the only one getting bullied by them. Thanks for sharing your experience. 
Did ask my mps office to look into cmhts nationwide but of course that's not going to happen.

Bettahm

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

Have just realized after reading again the emailed copy of my cmht discharge letter received in December, seven months after the date on it, that I have had a social care assessment!

Cpn came here just before Christmas 2022 and said he was coming on the 29th with a social worker. He did not say why or what for and I didnt query it. So all that questioning that day that stressed me out was the assessment! At no point ever, before or after, did they tell me what they were doing. I was so bad after it, it was January 2nd before I emailed and said, as I did at the assessment, that I didn't want all the stuff they had questioned me about. All I wanted, I said, was help with my mind and support at medical appointments, for now, til I'm better.
They never responded to my email.
Cpn wanted to send my support worker round here with another social worker. I said no. I expected to see him again for mental health support. 
Last time I saw him was Feb 22nd when he came with a transforming care lady. Have since found out transforming care liaise between autistic person and mh team. 
I have no idea what was said between all these people behind my back because I was not informed of ANYTHING AT ALL during last year or consulted over any of their plans and decisions taken regarding MY LIFE! 

Cant believe any of this is proper practice and again think they took advantage because they knew I had no family or friends. 

They have made my mh worse and no way do I want any more assessments or interference in my life!

I completely understand why you want nothing more to do with them . 

I’m under a CMHT at the moment and they are so unbelievably terrible , they have lied about me which ended up in me being admitted to a psychiatric ward for a short while last year , was discharged and they still lied. Even the home crisis team was shocked at their lies and backed me up. The home crisis team were good but CMHT are beyond useless. 

Yes mine lied three times last year about me to others but I'm the only one who knows they lied so cant prove anything. Transforming care, my mps office and PALS preferred to believe them over me.
So I am under no one now. No way would I go back to cmht! They are underhanded, liars and manipulators.
Still reckon because I have no one so no one to be around when they came here they took advantage.
But knew I couldnt be the only one getting bullied by them. Thanks for sharing your experience. 
Did ask my mps office to look into cmhts nationwide but of course that's not going to happen.

Sorry this happened to you , it’s so underhanded and wrong, I know first hand how they lie and manipulate , luckily for me I have some proof of this but they still continued and tried to cover their backs. I expect to be discharged by them before summer and TBH it’ll probably be a good thing because they aren’t helping at all. 

I hope your situation improves soon, sorry your MP, PALS sided with them . TBH most of these all stick together . 

That's exactly what my cmht did, lie to cover their backs when I'd caught them in three lies.
Its abuse. Pretty disgusting, who are these people answerable to.
Think as you say they all stick together. And get away with it.
Best Wishes for your situation. Agree, they certainly have been no help to me. Just the opposite. 

Bettahm

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

Have just realized after reading again the emailed copy of my cmht discharge letter received in December, seven months after the date on it, that I have had a social care assessment!

Cpn came here just before Christmas 2022 and said he was coming on the 29th with a social worker. He did not say why or what for and I didnt query it. So all that questioning that day that stressed me out was the assessment! At no point ever, before or after, did they tell me what they were doing. I was so bad after it, it was January 2nd before I emailed and said, as I did at the assessment, that I didn't want all the stuff they had questioned me about. All I wanted, I said, was help with my mind and support at medical appointments, for now, til I'm better.
They never responded to my email.
Cpn wanted to send my support worker round here with another social worker. I said no. I expected to see him again for mental health support. 
Last time I saw him was Feb 22nd when he came with a transforming care lady. Have since found out transforming care liaise between autistic person and mh team. 
I have no idea what was said between all these people behind my back because I was not informed of ANYTHING AT ALL during last year or consulted over any of their plans and decisions taken regarding MY LIFE! 

Cant believe any of this is proper practice and again think they took advantage because they knew I had no family or friends. 

They have made my mh worse and no way do I want any more assessments or interference in my life!

I completely understand why you want nothing more to do with them . 

I’m under a CMHT at the moment and they are so unbelievably terrible , they have lied about me which ended up in me being admitted to a psychiatric ward for a short while last year , was discharged and they still lied. Even the home crisis team was shocked at their lies and backed me up. The home crisis team were good but CMHT are beyond useless. 

Yes mine lied three times last year about me to others but I'm the only one who knows they lied so cant prove anything. Transforming care, my mps office and PALS preferred to believe them over me.
So I am under no one now. No way would I go back to cmht! They are underhanded, liars and manipulators.
Still reckon because I have no one so no one to be around when they came here they took advantage.
But knew I couldnt be the only one getting bullied by them. Thanks for sharing your experience. 
Did ask my mps office to look into cmhts nationwide but of course that's not going to happen.

Sorry this happened to you , it’s so underhanded and wrong, I know first hand how they lie and manipulate , luckily for me I have some proof of this but they still continued and tried to cover their backs. I expect to be discharged by them before summer and TBH it’ll probably be a good thing because they aren’t helping at all. 

I hope your situation improves soon, sorry your MP, PALS sided with them . TBH most of these all stick together . 

That's exactly what my cmht did, lie to cover their backs when I'd caught them in three lies.
Its abuse. Pretty disgusting, who are these people answerable to.
Think as you say they all stick together. And get away with it.
Best Wishes for your situation. Agree, they certainly have been no help to me. Just the opposite. 

Thank you and I hope ur situation improves too. I’ve had very bad experiences with most MHS MH services, if I get any Pip it’ll probably go towards private therapy . 

That's been my experience too. Five years trying to get help and get well and it's just not out there. Not nhs anyway. So what the government is planning to do with people with mh issues is deplorable. 
Not right that you, or anyone, needs to seek private treatment. 
We are being failed and overlooked.

Bettahm

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

Have just realized after reading again the emailed copy of my cmht discharge letter received in December, seven months after the date on it, that I have had a social care assessment!

Cpn came here just before Christmas 2022 and said he was coming on the 29th with a social worker. He did not say why or what for and I didnt query it. So all that questioning that day that stressed me out was the assessment! At no point ever, before or after, did they tell me what they were doing. I was so bad after it, it was January 2nd before I emailed and said, as I did at the assessment, that I didn't want all the stuff they had questioned me about. All I wanted, I said, was help with my mind and support at medical appointments, for now, til I'm better.
They never responded to my email.
Cpn wanted to send my support worker round here with another social worker. I said no. I expected to see him again for mental health support. 
Last time I saw him was Feb 22nd when he came with a transforming care lady. Have since found out transforming care liaise between autistic person and mh team. 
I have no idea what was said between all these people behind my back because I was not informed of ANYTHING AT ALL during last year or consulted over any of their plans and decisions taken regarding MY LIFE! 

Cant believe any of this is proper practice and again think they took advantage because they knew I had no family or friends. 

They have made my mh worse and no way do I want any more assessments or interference in my life!

I completely understand why you want nothing more to do with them . 

I’m under a CMHT at the moment and they are so unbelievably terrible , they have lied about me which ended up in me being admitted to a psychiatric ward for a short while last year , was discharged and they still lied. Even the home crisis team was shocked at their lies and backed me up. The home crisis team were good but CMHT are beyond useless. 

Yes mine lied three times last year about me to others but I'm the only one who knows they lied so cant prove anything. Transforming care, my mps office and PALS preferred to believe them over me.
So I am under no one now. No way would I go back to cmht! They are underhanded, liars and manipulators.
Still reckon because I have no one so no one to be around when they came here they took advantage.
But knew I couldnt be the only one getting bullied by them. Thanks for sharing your experience. 
Did ask my mps office to look into cmhts nationwide but of course that's not going to happen.

Sorry this happened to you , it’s so underhanded and wrong, I know first hand how they lie and manipulate , luckily for me I have some proof of this but they still continued and tried to cover their backs. I expect to be discharged by them before summer and TBH it’ll probably be a good thing because they aren’t helping at all. 

I hope your situation improves soon, sorry your MP, PALS sided with them . TBH most of these all stick together . 

That's exactly what my cmht did, lie to cover their backs when I'd caught them in three lies.
Its abuse. Pretty disgusting, who are these people answerable to.
Think as you say they all stick together. And get away with it.
Best Wishes for your situation. Agree, they certainly have been no help to me. Just the opposite. 

Thank you and I hope ur situation improves too. I’ve had very bad experiences with most MHS MH services, if I get any Pip it’ll probably go towards private therapy . 

That's been my experience too. Five years trying to get help and get well and it's just not out there. Not nhs anyway. So what the government is planning to do with people with mh issues is deplorable. 
Not right that you, or anyone, needs to seek private treatment. 
We are being failed and overlooked.

I know , I’m currently doing a DBT course with NHS and the facilitators aren’t even therapists, it’s like the blind leading the blind . 

Shameful.
Lord, help us.
I know there are more people on this forum with bad experiences. It really is shameful.
There should be a public enquiry, in depth.
Maybe one day, I sincerely hope.

Albus_Scope

I'm so sorry you've both had such a bad time with finding help. The NHS is struggling as it is and the CMHTs are often horribly understaffed, but they're doing their best with very stretched resources. The person who visited me from the CMHT gave me a 15 min visit each week for 5 weeks, then quit and they didn't give me a replacement therapist. The therapist at the time told me they had 6 staff for the whole of Hampshire.

There are a lot of online talking therapy sites you could try if that's something you think could work? Most aren't free, but it could be a viable option for now? 

Bettahm

Albus_Scope said:

I'm so sorry you've both had such a bad time with finding help. The NHS is struggling as it is and the CMHTs are often horribly understaffed, but they're doing their best with very stretched resources. The person who visited me from the CMHT gave me a 15 min visit each week for 5 weeks, then quit and they didn't give me a replacement therapist. The therapist at the time told me they had 6 staff for the whole of Hampshire.

There are a lot of online talking therapy sites you could try if that's something you think could work? Most aren't free, but it could be a viable option for now? 

They very obviously lie, manipulate, dont keep you informed about their treatment plans, dont consult you about their treatment plans, can come to your home and question you and see you are in distress and keep going...
 They are not some untouchable sacred cow that can just mess up peoples lives and get away with it.
They should be held accountable for any wrongdoing. 
If you had a good experience with them, fine. So many didnt.

Albus_Scope

Apologies if my comment caused you offence @Bettahm, that was never my intent. 

Bettahm

letitbe said:

Bettahm said:

Albus_Scope said:

I'm so sorry you've both had such a bad time with finding help. The NHS is struggling as it is and the CMHTs are often horribly understaffed, but they're doing their best with very stretched resources. The person who visited me from the CMHT gave me a 15 min visit each week for 5 weeks, then quit and they didn't give me a replacement therapist. The therapist at the time told me they had 6 staff for the whole of Hampshire.

There are a lot of online talking therapy sites you could try if that's something you think could work? Most aren't free, but it could be a viable option for now? 

They very obviously lie, manipulate, dont keep you informed about their treatment plans, dont consult you about their treatment plans, can come to your home and question you and see you are in distress and keep going...
 They are not some untouchable sacred cow that can just mess up peoples lives and get away with it.
They should be held accountable for any wrongdoing. 
If you had a good experience with them, fine. So many didnt.

I agree. When I was first referred they didn’t even bother to asses me , just called me up and lied about something my GP had said ( luckily I emailed my GP about this and kept the email to prove they lied ) they sent me to a charity that made me suicidal within 3 sessions and I ended up in A&E self harming. They then continued to lie whilst I was on a psychiatric ward , even sending me a letter saying they had tried multiple times to contact me , this was a blatant lie and when I challenged them they gave me dates of when I was in a psychiatric unit, they knew I was in a psychiatric unit because it’s next door to CMHT. They are being quite difficult with me now because I have complained about them numerous times . 

That is all just so disgusting! 
Mine have left me worse mentally and cant believe how everybody sided with them, basically branding me a liar. Couldnt believe when transforming care didn't keep our prebooked phone appt and haven't responded to emails since. In this cancel culture I've been cancelled by people I openly trusted , expecting them to help me. Right now, the future looks pretty bleak. Five years ago I was diagnosed with mild to moderate depression and anxiety....
Our Victorian mental health system and a government and culture that doesnt care.
And this has nothing to do with a struggling, understaffed nhs. Lies, manipulation, bullying etc are totally unacceptable, yet they are getting away with it, currently. 
So wrong, so much harm being done to so many out there, I feel.
Sick!
Stop standing up and making excuses for them, Scope! Get our voice heard!!

Agnia

Hi  Bettahm , im terrified about this situation that happened to you 

Bettahm

Agnia said:

Hi  Bettahm , im terrified about this situation that happened to you 

It's one day at a time at the moment here.