Let's have a Debate

rubin16

I think more or less with radar keys its the issueing of them thats the problem, like to get one you don't really have to prove you need one and hence why all the issues. If it was like the blue badge system it would be better so you couldn't just buy one, but first had to give a reason why you need one. Theres lots of places just selling radar keys without asking if you truly need one.

With the Blue badges though since you have to prove that you need one before it being issued, this should never be challenged. Its completley different situation to the radar key.

MW123

Steve_in_The_City said:

For those of you who think it it is ok for people with invisible disabilities (whether they have them or not) to use a Blue Badge parking space, I just wonder?

Steve, you question the validity of individuals with invisible disabilities using Blue Badge parking spaces. Let me shed light on the harsh reality I face daily.

The lifesaving blood transfusions, for my red blood cell cancer meant to sustain me, have unfortunately damaged my heart. Years of twice-weekly transfusions have led to excess fluid build-up, plunging me into heart failure. My heart struggles to cope with all the excess fluid it has to pump.  Every breath is now a struggle, and every movement leaves me fatigued.

Walking even short distances poses a significant challenge. My failing heart struggles to pump blood to my leg muscles, compounded by the cancer depleting oxygen levels in my red blood cells. This intricate interaction affects my mobility and daily life profoundly, despite being unseen by onlookers.

Steve, I hear and respect your concerns regarding the misuse of BB parking spaces. However, it's important to acknowledge that while my challenges may not be readily visible, they are no less significant.

Steve_in_The_City

@MW123 Your comments are completely understandable and valid.

I was referring to a group of individuals and not a solo person who made it impossible for me to use the disabled loo. The conscientious of opinion on this thread seems to be ok lets all use a disabled loo and let us all say we have invisible disabilities.

I flung Blue Badge into the discussion quite purposely because I knew that Blue Badge holders wouldn't want to have their spaces occupied by non-Blue Badge holders, so where is the difference? Going to the loo or having somewhere to park?

JessieJ

But us blue badge holders see disabled bays used by non holders every day...just saying!

MW123

@Steve_in_The_City

Steve, your experience with the disabled toilet facilities really gave me pause for thought and made me reflect. As I mentioned earlier, I've encountered similar challenges, especially with using disabled parking spots. Despite having a valid badge, I've faced suspicion from others, often based solely on my appearance.

The next time someone questions my need for disabled parking, I've decided to calmly explain my situation. My aim is to educate and foster understanding, particularly if they suspect me of misusing the disabled parking system.

Albus_Scope

Excellent way of doing things @MW123, it's so easy to get angry when you're constantly having to defend yourself.  But education is the key.

Steve_in_The_City

Hi @MW123 There are 2 disabled flats in my block, but only 1 disabled bay. The rest of the parking bays are for residents. Personally I don't need a disabled bay because I trundle around on my scooter. But my neighbour is only a young woman. She has carers throughout the day and is unable to leave her flat. Her mum comes to see her and has a blue badge. Frequently she can't park in the bay and has to carry shopping etc further than she should. There is another disabled man who has a badge. He is in the same position.

When disabled facilities are provided for disabled people they should be able to use those facilities and not be frozen out by the able bodied. If you are disabled and questioned you are correct stand up for yourself. 

Jimm_Alumni

It is wrong for those who are not disabled to use toilets and space for disabled people.

It's also wrong to assume an individual isn't disabled though.

I just fall on the side that, in the case of toilets, it should be accessible to someone who is disabled even if they don't have a radar key than the chance that non-disabled people use it. I understand those who disagree though! It can be very frustrating when facilities meant for disabled people are taken up, though I wonder if that might also be an issue of supply in some cases too?