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Pip tribunal upset

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Dianaf
Dianaf Community member Posts: 29 Connected
Hello everyone. Waiting to go to tribunal about reduced pip award after assessment mrc refused. A directors notice from the court says I need to give in a GPS report because all the other letters that I have given in to the court from hospital consultants diagnosis letters and just about everythjng else to prove what is wrong with me Is not proof that I have anything wrong with me. Basically if I do not get a full medical print out from my gp they say I could lose my current award of full mobility award which the dwp awarded. I am stressed and this has made me ill when I'm already getting over covid for 3rd time. Any ideas? Why the tribunal are being so brutal. From Diana 

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  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 11,646 Disability Gamechanger
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    I assume you are going to tribunal for care element as you get enhanced for mobility ? I'm afraid if they are asking for a full report from GP you will need to provide one, although it's possible you GP will charge for it.
    Good luck
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,146 Disability Gamechanger
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    Have you been given a warning from the Tribunal that if you proceed with the hearing then you risk losing your current award?
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Community member Posts: 29 Connected
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    Poppy. Hi what they are saying is that if I don't give a full GPS report I could be at risk of losing my current award because there is no medical evidence to back my conditions up even though they have hospital consultants letters diagnosis letters doctors letters going back 5 years. For fibromyalgia M. E  degenerative spinal desease. They say this is not enough. 😢
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,146 Disability Gamechanger
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    I see this has been going on for quite sometime. In a previous thread you were advised to get some expert advice, did you do that? It's very difficult to give advice here because I don't know what it actually says on the evidence you sent. 

    PIP isn't awarded based on any diagnosis so if the evidence you send just mentions a diagnosis then this will be why they are saying it's not enough. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Community member Posts: 29 Connected
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    Hi again Poppy pip has been awarded by dwp based on assessment and medical evidence but they reduced my daily living which apparently happens alot. So I am trying to get those points back by going to tribunal. Tribunal are just saying they do not have enough medical evidence of my conditions but they have been sent hospital letters saying I have these conditions. Yes I seeked advice like you suggested but was told that they couldn't help with tribunals. (citizens advice) you seem to have better advice and knowledge than anyone in citizens advice. The tribunal also have the dwp bundle which has all the medical evidence used for the dwp to award me in first place 💐
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 11,646 Disability Gamechanger
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    If you have not found CAB helpful my advice would be to try Welfare rights (your council will point you in their direction).
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,146 Disability Gamechanger
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    Thank you but it is very difficult to give advice because I don’t know anything about your case or what it says in the evidence you’ve already sent.

    In a previous comment you said you had a representative, what happened to them? 

    If they are asking for a GP report is there any reason why you haven’t sent it? 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Community member Posts: 29 Connected
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    Hi again Poppy my representative doesn't respond to my emails calls or anything else and she works for a welfare charity organisation in the local area. Just had someone else read tribunal letter again and it does say even if I send in GPS medical report they will probably still look at my mobility award again and warn it could be cut. Don't understand why as I am a wheelchair user. They have also sent that same letter to dwp I think which seems they are deffinetely taking sides with the dwp which I thought they couldn't do. Poppy shall I withdraw my appeal. What would you advise. 🥀
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,146 Disability Gamechanger
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    I don't think they are taking sides because they have to send the same letter to DWP, the same if they sent a letter to DWP they will have to send one to you. 

    They can certainly look at the whole award again. I'm sorry but I really can't tell you what you should do because I don't know anything about your health conditions or how they affect you. 

    All I can say is this is a warning that if you proceed you could lose what you already have. Try this link to see if there's another advice agency local to you. welfare-benefits
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Community member Posts: 29 Connected
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    Thank you Poppy 
  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,286 Pioneering
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    Hi there I thought pip didn’t need evidence ?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,146 Disability Gamechanger
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    cupcake88 said:
    Hi there I thought pip didn’t need evidence ?
    It’s not vital no, if you give enough of relevant information in the form. 

    In this case the Tribunal are asking for it. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Dianaf
    Dianaf Community member Posts: 29 Connected
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    cupcake88 said:
    Hi there I thought pip didn’t need evidence ?
    It’s not vital no, if you give enough of relevant information in the form. 

    In this case the Tribunal are asking for it. 
    To be honest so far I am finding the tribunal judge to be more brutal than the dwp staff. Saying in the tribunal letter also that fibromyalgia would not cause mobility problems! What are they thinking? 

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