PIP - should it be linked to the condition someone has better?

ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering
in PIP, DLA, and AA

Currently PIP doesn’t do a very good at analysing a condition, they don’t link it to the condition that someone has. It just goes off the 12 every day activities that they gives points for. What do people think? Should they link it to the condition more?

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  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering

    In the long run I think the structure of PIP needs changing for the better, they need to link it to the condition more, which its predecessor did.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering

    I was on an indefinite award on its predecessor DLA but with PIP just keep getting awards of 4 years in length. It’s like “autism” is on a 4-year list, meaning we can’t rule changes with autism in 4 years. Got the latest award over 2 months, beginning of March, for another 4 years to March 2028, with another planned review ( I won’t have changed 😒😒🙄🙄) for March 2027.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering

    If the structure of PIP can be changed so it’s linked to the condition, it measures the severity of the condition someone has, the low probability that it won’t get better, I’ll probably then see a better award of PIP. I am totally satisfied 😊 with the rates I’m getting. On enhanced for both components, was on them for the previous award. It’s just the length of the awards that I don’t agree with.

    I won’t be alone, other claimants will also find that they’re not seeing an improvement in the length of an award. PIP needs to change, in the long term.

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Online Community Member Posts: 14,987 Championing

    I can see the advantages of your idea because the current system discourages people from making an effort to get better

    I know a guy with one leg and no use of the other leg. He still gets around and drives and stuff, because he is a strong person … he gets nothing because he makes an effort

    But the way your condition affects you should still have some relevance, just in my humble opinion

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/866236#Comment_866236

    I genuinely believe that if the system was designed better, so the analysise the condition, its severity, and don’t just base everything of 12 activities where points are given, I’d be getting what I was getting on DLA, an indefinite award. They need to bring indefinite and lifetime awards back, for the conditions that are severe, lifelong and have no chance of getting better.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering

    Reassessment after reassessment for someone that won’t improve, it’s just needless, a waste of their resources and time at the DWP as well.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 448 Empowering

    As claimants, we shouldn’t have to keep repeating ourselves over and over again, keep telling them the same information that they already have, the same information that won’t change.

    We shouldn’t have to think about these reassessments, to worry about them. They shouldn’t keep coming around.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 62,725 Championing

    If it was changed and done this way then it would mean that it's awarded based on a diagnosis but I think that's wrong too. Many people claim PIP without a diagnosis.

    For the length of award, there's nothing stopping everyone asking for a longer award and state their reasons why they think they should have that longer award. I did this for my daughters receive last time and she was awarded for 6 years.

    You can also challenge just the award length, which was advised in your thread here.

    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/115472/pip-review-now-done-same-rates-enhanced-and-enhanced-but-not-an-improvement-on-the-time-of-award

  • Bydand
    Bydand Online Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/118207/pip-should-it-be-linked-to-the-condition-someone-has-better

    you will likely open a can of worms with your question but in my view yes it should be. To me, if I have written on a form about my illness or condition (as the application asks for) as evidenced by my GP or specialist ( in which it asks for their contact details) I would like to think that this does form part of the decision process but I doubt very much that it does as PIP as it is described currently is more about how any illness or condition effects your daily life and not about what’s wrong with you…..To me the two are directly linked and go hand in hand.


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